Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 14:50:46 GMT -6
So I have been using DSM2's with a sub (barely on) and have had excellent luck with translation, hearing details and comfort. Just recently, I pulled up a track in progress and reflected on a friend's evaluation of the vocal - it was goofy in the midrange. I have had good feedback from the guy on previous songs so I pulled some things up and began to hunt down the new issue.
It was somewhere in the low mids and "real" mids area and though I tried and tried, I couldn't find the solution. I was just about to post a white flag here, asking for help as my ears seemed to be failing me all of a sudden. With this jun mind I began window shopping and I found a bargain on the S8's and decided to pull them in to test and I got them this past week.
When I put them up, I hated them. The same range of frequencies, mentioned above, were way to strong (so I thought) and I just 'knew' that these had to have a problem. I called the vendor and they suggested running some sine sweeps. I gave that a go but the results didn't support the theory. hmmm.
Today, I woke up and began pulling out CD's for a listening party. I listened to a bunch of different stuff and turned the volume up and down and listened. One thing was sure immediately, the vocals were right there in front of me, in all their glory, right in front of my screens and I could her everything about them. I also noticed the natural feel of the highs - there was no harshness, nothing annoying and at first I thought them a bit dark but I realized that they remained open up top without being strident - this was cool.
After a few hours, I began to feel that they either loosened up or I was beginning to be acclimated. I think it is a little of both. Now I liked them. As a last ditch test, I pulled the DSM2's back out, stacked them and level matched them all. I pulled a couple of CD's out and began to do some comparative listening. Wow. Now the truth was really there. I still like the DSM2's but in comparison, they sound a little scooped and slightly pinched, at the same time. I could happily continue mixing on them and would do well but the Sceptre's have something more. I think I finally heard what a 'flat-ish' midrange sounds like and while at first it drove me crazy, now it sounds natural... in the mids and in the highs. The difference is staggering - just a full, natural sound.
After all of this, the DSM2's are going to the bay. They are great boxes but the Sceptre's are in another class. Oh, and that vocal anomaly that got me here, I fixed it in 5mins on the Scpetre's. They are kidding about the sweet spot with 'Coactuals', either. My only beef is that I expected a bit more low end. However, I will keep the sub, again - barely on, as together, they sound really strong and not hyped.
I hadn't seen anyone discuss them here so I thought I'd share.
rob
BTW, my avantone usually sit up on top of the monitors but have to move them for this round of testing.
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It was somewhere in the low mids and "real" mids area and though I tried and tried, I couldn't find the solution. I was just about to post a white flag here, asking for help as my ears seemed to be failing me all of a sudden. With this jun mind I began window shopping and I found a bargain on the S8's and decided to pull them in to test and I got them this past week.
When I put them up, I hated them. The same range of frequencies, mentioned above, were way to strong (so I thought) and I just 'knew' that these had to have a problem. I called the vendor and they suggested running some sine sweeps. I gave that a go but the results didn't support the theory. hmmm.
Today, I woke up and began pulling out CD's for a listening party. I listened to a bunch of different stuff and turned the volume up and down and listened. One thing was sure immediately, the vocals were right there in front of me, in all their glory, right in front of my screens and I could her everything about them. I also noticed the natural feel of the highs - there was no harshness, nothing annoying and at first I thought them a bit dark but I realized that they remained open up top without being strident - this was cool.
After a few hours, I began to feel that they either loosened up or I was beginning to be acclimated. I think it is a little of both. Now I liked them. As a last ditch test, I pulled the DSM2's back out, stacked them and level matched them all. I pulled a couple of CD's out and began to do some comparative listening. Wow. Now the truth was really there. I still like the DSM2's but in comparison, they sound a little scooped and slightly pinched, at the same time. I could happily continue mixing on them and would do well but the Sceptre's have something more. I think I finally heard what a 'flat-ish' midrange sounds like and while at first it drove me crazy, now it sounds natural... in the mids and in the highs. The difference is staggering - just a full, natural sound.
After all of this, the DSM2's are going to the bay. They are great boxes but the Sceptre's are in another class. Oh, and that vocal anomaly that got me here, I fixed it in 5mins on the Scpetre's. They are kidding about the sweet spot with 'Coactuals', either. My only beef is that I expected a bit more low end. However, I will keep the sub, again - barely on, as together, they sound really strong and not hyped.
I hadn't seen anyone discuss them here so I thought I'd share.
rob
BTW, my avantone usually sit up on top of the monitors but have to move them for this round of testing.
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