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Post by levon on Dec 5, 2014 1:01:46 GMT -6
Happy with my Beyer DT880 Pros on an SPL Phonitor. I mixed about 60% of my last album on those. Would love to shoot out the Beyer T-1 against the Sennheiser HD800 though. One day...
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Post by RicFoxx on Dec 5, 2014 8:00:20 GMT -6
Just picked up a pair for my iPhone on Amazon for $7.59.
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Post by drumrec on Dec 5, 2014 20:48:39 GMT -6
Love my AKG K1000. Warmly recommend! /H
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Post by unit7 on Dec 6, 2014 6:14:32 GMT -6
Happy with my Beyer DT880 Pros on an SPL Phonitor. I mixed about 60% of my last album on those. Would love to shoot out the Beyer T-1 against the Sennheiser HD800 though. One day... I have Sennheiser HD600 & 650 here. Had the HD800s too for a while but got rid of them. The detail is incredible but they were too bright for me. Use the 650s all the time for reference. Very natural/neutral imo.
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Post by ben on Dec 6, 2014 7:51:22 GMT -6
Happy with my Beyer DT880 Pros on an SPL Phonitor. I mixed about 60% of my last album on those. Would love to shoot out the Beyer T-1 against the Sennheiser HD800 though. One day... I have Sennheiser HD600 & 650 here. Had the HD800s too for a while but got rid of them. The detail is incredible but they were too bright for me. Use the 650s all the time for reference. Very natural/neutral imo. I've had the 600's for a few years now. I think it's the open back that bothers me. I hear that they are supposed to be better for bass response, but it feels like the room interferes for me for mixing purposes. maybe it's just my ears tricking me.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 6, 2014 8:00:20 GMT -6
Anyone use the HD380's?
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Post by unit7 on Dec 6, 2014 9:13:04 GMT -6
I have Sennheiser HD600 & 650 here. Had the HD800s too for a while but got rid of them. The detail is incredible but they were too bright for me. Use the 650s all the time for reference. Very natural/neutral imo. it feels like the room interferes for me for mixing purposes. Please explain.. You mean the room acoustics come in play? Excuse me for a very basic question, but you always turn down the speakers when listening in the cans, right?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 9, 2015 10:24:38 GMT -6
I ordered a set of Sennheiser HD380's about a month ago, but they've been backordered since I ordered. Now, I'm reconsidering and thinking about grabbing a set of AKG Q701's. Anyone have experience with these sets of phones?
UPDATE: I changed course, cancelled the HD380's and got the AKG's. They'll be here Tuesday.
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Post by ben on Jan 9, 2015 20:11:40 GMT -6
it feels like the room interferes for me for mixing purposes. Please explain.. You mean the room acoustics come in play? Excuse me for a very basic question, but you always turn down the speakers when listening in the cans, right? Oh, of course, but with open back headphones, it feels like you're still in the room. When I listen in cans, I want to get lost in the sound, and that doesn't happen for me with open backs.
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Post by Ward on Jan 10, 2015 13:37:07 GMT -6
Have you tried Sennheiser 280 pro cans?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 10, 2015 13:40:51 GMT -6
Have you tried Sennheiser 280 pro cans? I have 280's now.
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Post by Ward on Jan 10, 2015 22:22:14 GMT -6
Have you tried Sennheiser 280 pro cans? I have 280's now. I find them absolutely BRILLIANT for tracking, especially for keeping click out of the mics, even if the headphones are cranked. What are they like for mixing? I don't presently have any sets of them, but plan on buying some. Some clients recently brought in their own and there was ZERO leakage, so they're exactly what I'm looking for, for tracking purposes.
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Post by ben on Jan 11, 2015 9:02:15 GMT -6
I've got 5 pairs of the HD 280's for tracking. They are awesome for tracking and bleed. I don't like them for mixing.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 11, 2015 9:17:39 GMT -6
I find them absolutely BRILLIANT for tracking, especially for keeping click out of the mics, even if the headphones are cranked. What are they like for mixing? I don't presently have any sets of them, but plan on buying some. Some clients recently brought in their own and there was ZERO leakage, so they're exactly what I'm looking for, for tracking purposes. I agree with ben. Great tracking phones, but I'm looking for something better for mixing. I wouldn't say ZERO bleed though. Good, but not perfect.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 12, 2015 21:17:48 GMT -6
Have you tried Sennheiser 280 pro cans? I just got the AKG Q701 set in today. I'm not sure that I can put the 280's on ever again. The top on these phones is smooth, yet brilliant. The detail is immaculate and the 280's just sound harsh and cluttered now. Soundstage is wide and deep. Reverb tails sound great. You can really hear the room. Haven't mixed on these yet obviously, but man alive, instantly feels like a great buy. The AKG's are open back, so not good for tracking and they don't have tons of juice, but man they sound good so far.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 12, 2015 21:39:45 GMT -6
Hey Martin John Butler, you're into all that audiophile voodoo right? What kind of phones do you like? How about headphone amp? Any take on this stuff?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 12, 2015 22:14:24 GMT -6
Hey jcoutou, for my listening pleasure I use the headphone out of my Peachtree Audio integrated amp. Peachtree is the best bang for the buck in all hi-Fi. The headphone out competes favorably with stand alone headphone amps that cost more than the entire amp, and you still get an incredible sounding integrated great amp that happens to reclock digital files too. I happen to prefer Cirrus Logic chips to Burr Brown every time, even when I'm unaware of what brand is being used.
I was never a big headphone fan, but use them when needed. Headphones are truly hit and miss. The middle of a company's line might sound really good, so you'd expect the top of the line to be great, and it sucks. I've tried many of the big names' high end, and was unfailingly disappointed.
When I needed cans for recording I went to the B&H superstore here in Manhattan. In some ways, they're unbeatable. The actually have a vocal mic room, with around 30-40 of the top brands, and three or four high end preamps, and you can audition them. They also happen to have a nice rack with around 50 different pairs of headphones, and they're actually working properly. Try that at Sam Ash or Guitar Center and see what happens, ugh..
I tried 10 different brands, some were being raved about at the site that won't name names, including the old standby industry standard AKG 140 and 240, then tried the not very expensive ( $110?) Sony Professional MDR 7506, and it just killed them, much more natural, not bloated at all, but not thin. I imagine you might want a bit more oomph in the low end, but I couldn't find anything better, including brands 3-4 X more expensive.
Let me know how it goes.
* funny, I'm not a big Sony fan at all, but I was given a set of their earbuds a few years back that sell for around $180. My friend had these $600 clear ultra high end earbuds custom made to fit his ear and was grinning when he spoke of it and asked me to try them. I listened for a couple of minutes, and felt bad for my friend, but I had to do it, so I handed him my Sony earbuds, he hit play, and his face dropped like a guy whose house just floated away in a storm.
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Post by cenafria on Jan 13, 2015 8:53:53 GMT -6
I'm not much of a headphone guy but I'm really impressed with my Grado SR125. They feel closer to listening on speakers to me than other headphones I've tried.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 13, 2015 12:56:34 GMT -6
jcoutou, at least you have a few good recommendations now, and know where to start looking. Let us know what you settle on.
As for track mixing, I sometimes try to get certain things in place with headphones, but they're fatiguing. Where I find headphones quite useful is when developing a comp for vocal or guitar. You can really hear the subtleties and get it right the first time. In fact, i prefer comping with cans on, unless I can put my monitors up really loud, which I can't always do in my apartment.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 13, 2015 13:25:17 GMT -6
jcoutou, at least you have a few good recommendations now, and know where to start looking. Let us know what you settle on. As for track mixing, I sometimes try to get certain things in place with headphones, but they're fatiguing. Where I find headphones quite useful is when developing a comp for vocal or guitar. You can really hear the subtleties and get it right the first time. In fact, i prefer comping with cans on, unless I can put my monitors up really loud, which I can't always do in my apartment. Martin, I assume you missed this post... realgearonline.com/post/45174I grabbed AKG Q701's and am digging the hell outta them so far (only an hour or so of listening, no mixing). I've only powered them off my laptop for far, but I'm planning on getting my mixing rig hooked up to the Mammoth Cave Ground Control Deluxe tonight so use the cmoy style headphone amp in there. I think it'll provide a bit more juice to power them, but I'm considering a more portable solution to keep on my office for listening at work. Perhaps a USB DAC/Headphone amp would be the solution. Along with that comes carting the phones back and forth, which I'm not sure I want to deal with either.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 13, 2015 13:58:05 GMT -6
Also, this is pretty awesome. www.sonicsense.com/resourcecenter/app/audio?load=category&key=headphones.htmlI played around with it for a few minutes and the HD280's have the signature sound that I'm used to hearing. I didn't check out everything, but checked out some Sennheisers, Beyers, AKG, Beats (haha), and Sony here. The Sennheiser HD650's seemed truest to the source material IMO. HD800's sounded nice. AKG K701 and K712 sounded good. Beyers sounded how I remember them. The Sony and Beats both sounded like trash to me along with the HD380's (which I originally bought and were back ordered). Anyway, cool stuff. Have a listen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 21:56:06 GMT -6
Still have a few Senny HD250 linear (I and II). As long as they work, i don't plan to trash them. I might be in on some inexpensive in-ears like svart recommended. Once i bought one of those first discmen, for my wifey, and i swear, the inexpensive in-ears on this one sounded marvellous. The Sennheisers i am used to are very linear sounding with diffuse field equalization, so you have the impression of mixing with monitors as much as it can get with headphones, and they don't fatigue ears when mixing for many hours and are very comfortable to wear. From time to time i try the actually hyped headphones and never digged the AKG models or the Beyers and Sonys. Let alone the Beats - OMG, how could people pay so much money for something like THIS. I wished, Sennheiser would re-vamp the HD250 or at least something following this concept as best as possible...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 22:09:54 GMT -6
Well, if i had to choose from the models available today, i guess i would probably go for a HD600 or something very similar.
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Post by porkyman on Apr 3, 2015 0:52:54 GMT -6
you're such a bastard jim lol 8) I want one! do you sell them? Naw, too easy to make. If you want I can give you the schematic. Maybe post it here for the DIY's? what ever happened to this schematic? i need this thing.
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Post by watchtower on Apr 3, 2015 11:32:12 GMT -6
The Shure SRH940 are amazing.
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