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Post by wiz on Oct 30, 2014 0:31:21 GMT -6
I used to use wave burner.
I want something that will allow me to Burn CDs, insert ISRCs, CD text and I guess make DDP files.'
Also anyone know if the USB Apple Superdrive can write that stuff (ISRCs and CD Text)?
what you using?
cheers
Wiz
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Post by popmann on Oct 30, 2014 6:51:33 GMT -6
I use Burn, but I don't know....and would doubt it will do DDP images. Wavelab is you answer for that level of authoring. CdText any burner can do....and Burn will-hell, I think iTunes will author with CD Text. My alt post was gonna be: "what's a CD?"  |
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Post by wiz on Oct 30, 2014 6:54:41 GMT -6
I found this thing called Hofa
I am demoing it
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Post by Ward on Oct 30, 2014 14:56:21 GMT -6
No love for Toast Titanium?
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Post by levon on Oct 30, 2014 15:00:36 GMT -6
I found this thing called Hofa I am demoing it I saw that too, but since I still use Waveburner, I didn't need it. Hofa is a pretty well known company here in Germany, I do my CD pressings with them. Let us know how that software works out. |
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Post by wiz on Oct 30, 2014 16:13:22 GMT -6
I had changed computers, and hadn't installed wave burner..
I couldn't remember how to instal just it and not logic 9, and was searching about.. I found a flurry of posts about how wave burner had serious issues in writing files and was writing bad disks..
I have used wave burner for a few years and burnt tons of cds using it, and never noticed anything.
As a lot of stuff seems to have gone over to DDP rather the PMCD disks , which I never knew existed (DDP) prior to a few days ago, I was looking into something that could create those type files, and a player so clients could play the DDP image.
DDP as I understand it, is a file that you can create that you then upload to the Duplication/Replication house, and you never have errors because of checksums. Saves you the expense and hassle of getting the mastering house to make a CD and the resultant
cost of checking that CD and the possibility of replication a gazillion CDs that end up as coasters.
I installed the HOFA demo yesterday, unfortunately the demo doesn't allow you to make DDP images so I can't test that.
Honestly I don't know which way to go here.
Wavelab elements (deosnt require the cubase ilok thingy) doesn't do DDP ,... the far more expensive WAVELAB does DDP but requires the USB key thing.
I will have a look at TOAST TITANIUM
Popman's joke about "Whats a CD" isn't very far from the truth actually.
It makes me feel ill, that I have worked so hard on this, I announced via my social media avenues that I was sending off the Album for mastering and every one was really excited and "CANT WAIT TO BUY IT ON ITUNES!!!""
AAAAAAASAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
I don't even really want to put it on iTunes.
You do all this work and .... ah you all know what I am talking about.
cheers
Wiz
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Post by levon on Oct 31, 2014 0:37:55 GMT -6
You can't install Waveburner separately anymore, which is a bummer. But I use Logic anyway, so Waveburner works for me. Not sure if Toast can do DDP. I would guess that the Hofa plugin works fine, they make good stuff and it's only 60 Euros.
DDP has been around for some time, Abbey Road used it for my masters. If you really need to create DDPs and don't want to install Logic, I'd go with Hofa.
What's a CD? Well, people said that about vinyl not too long ago....
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Post by wiz on Oct 31, 2014 3:08:44 GMT -6
I should have been clearer .. I have Logic Pro x installed. I just didn't wNt to instal logic 9. I got waveburner installed today and it even updated via the App Store 8)
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Post by levon on Oct 31, 2014 5:21:47 GMT -6
I should have been clearer .. I have Logic Pro x installed. I just didn't wNt to instal logic 9. I got waveburner installed today and it even updated via the App Store 8) Well, there you go, Waveburner will do DDP files. |
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Post by watchtower on Oct 31, 2014 10:27:16 GMT -6
Not exactly pertinent, but related... I recently burned an album using Toast, and PreSonus Studio One. I then imported the CDs into Reaper and did a polarity reversal/null test out of curiosity before I send one of the CDs in to the replication plant. The Toast burn nulled, PreSonus burn didn't. No clue why.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 14:21:48 GMT -6
I have Wavelab, doesn't work on the Mac though. Can't route audio to the outputs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 19:31:10 GMT -6
If you aren't afraid of command line tools and already have a cue/wave or cue/bin master: ddp.andreasruge.de/Works seemingly good with e.g. Reaper's cuesheets, (as far as i know, more reliable than the actual Reaper DDP options), but is pretty universal. Mac binaries available too, and it's free. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 20:09:32 GMT -6
Unfortunately, the proprietary DCA license for the DDP format doesn't allow to open source DDP tools, otherwise we would have seen DDP probably integrated in much more tools and more free software.
Also, DDP is directed to mastering engineers and replication plants, so this is a very limited number of potential customers.
Therefore, if you are mastering your stuff by yourself, you have to deal with the fact, that specialized software, that exports DDP, seems, let's say, a little overprized for someone, who doesn't make a living out of mastering.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 20:18:47 GMT -6
Btw, you can create secure checksums for whatever format of image files.
So, this is not the real advantage of DDP format.
But as far as i know, all replication plants can use DDP images without additional conversion steps in their standard tool chain, so DDP is always the cheapest option to give your masters for replication, plus you have absolute control over the features in the end product, like EAN/UPC code, ISRC code, CD-Text....
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Nov 3, 2014 13:07:25 GMT -6
FWIW the DCA license is free to anybody willing to follow the rules. DCA makes the glass mastering software.
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Post by brucerothwell on Mar 15, 2015 1:32:04 GMT -6
If you aren't afraid of command line tools and already have a cue/wave or cue/bin master: ddp.andreasruge.de/Works seemingly good with e.g. Reaper's cuesheets, (as far as i know, more reliable than the actual Reaper DDP options), but is pretty universal. Mac binaries available too, and it's free. I've seen mention of this free option, and have no aversion to using a command-line tool -- as I have have worked with Unix and scripting for many years. However, these three things are still not clear to me: - What is the difference between a cue/wave and and cue/bin file?
- How do you create a cue/wave or cue/bin file?
- Where can I find an example of a proper cue sheet?
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Post by brucerothwell on Mar 15, 2015 1:43:49 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 2:56:52 GMT -6
Yes, the page you linked to is a good starter read about cue files.
.bin files are, like .iso or, say, .dmg for Mac, explicit disk image file formats, while .wav is a file format dedicated to digital audio content explicitly.
Many commercial and free programs can built disk image files of audio media like audio CD directly from audio files in a breeze. Mostly used format there is .iso.
You can convert .iso and .bin into each other transparently, they just have different file headers/tails/format description. This is very unproblematic. Every linux distribution brings tools for these tasks, there are free and OS independent command line tools for these tools available that can be easily found with google and are reliable since the 90s.
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