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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 23, 2014 17:43:03 GMT -6
I guess that's the right way to ask it...My little studio/nook is upstairs in my house. I have a really cool downstairs area with really high ceilings and really nice ambience. I've been saying for ages that I was going to set up something to record down there, but the idea of a wall fish seemed like a PITA. I have considered just buying a cheap Scarlett or something and using my laptop...but I have a feeling once I record down there a couple of times, I'm gonna want to do it more and more...and what's the point of having a Burl if I'm not using it?
So - how could I approach this in a decently economical manner? I'd like to "keep it classy" maybe some sort of wall mounted XLR outlet...I don't really foresee doing drums here...I think I could get away with 4 inputs or less. Any ideas?
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 23, 2014 17:53:51 GMT -6
pictures and a little google sketchup of the layout would really help bromee.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 23, 2014 18:05:20 GMT -6
what is google?
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 23, 2014 18:07:26 GMT -6
I keed...but is sketchup free?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 23, 2014 18:08:49 GMT -6
I keed...but is sketchup free? Yep |
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Post by sll on Oct 23, 2014 18:39:56 GMT -6
It's possible you could run a snake down an HVAC supply or return vent. Might require punching a hole in the ductwork in the basement, but that's easy to patch around. You could run a fish tape down the vents to see if there are any runs straight down the wall to the basement.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 23, 2014 18:57:16 GMT -6
OK - don't laugh at me...I know not what I'm doing...and this isn't particularly to scale.  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 23, 2014 18:58:01 GMT -6
It's possible you could run a snake down an HVAC supply or return vent. Might require punching a hole in the ductwork in the basement, but that's easy to patch around. You could run a fish tape down the vents to see if there are any runs straight down the wall to the basement. Dude...that's brilliant. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 23, 2014 19:00:29 GMT -6
OK - don't laugh at me...I know not what I'm doing...and this isn't particularly to scale. View AttachmentWanting to run from the studio to the Piano room. I know where I need to go, it's how to do it without pulling my hair out - that's the question. I've never done a wall fish, so that could be tricky. Truthfully, I could just buy two 100 foot XLR's and run them down the stairs when I need them... |
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Post by sll on Oct 23, 2014 19:15:14 GMT -6
It's possible you could run a snake down an HVAC supply or return vent. Might require punching a hole in the ductwork in the basement, but that's easy to patch around. You could run a fish tape down the vents to see if there are any runs straight down the wall to the basement. Dude...that's brilliant. Thanks. I used to be an HVAC guy in a former life, well when I was in high-school and college. That was the family business. Many times return air vents are simply the hollow section of wall between two studs. The plate is cut out at the floor to get air through. Additionally, supply vents going upstairs are sometimes ductwork that fits in between the studs and run from the basement trunk lines all the way upstairs. A return air vent shaft might be a good place to start. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 23, 2014 19:32:59 GMT -6
Scott's method is one of the best , the othe Galveston method would be to run the cables outside in conduit.
I like Scott's for a permanat solution or use long mic cables when you need them.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 24, 2014 11:25:47 GMT -6
Forgot I would have to run a cat5 cable too...I guess they don't make longer than 50ft XLR cables?
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 24, 2014 11:53:01 GMT -6
Forgot I would have to run a cat5 cable too...I guess they don't make longer than 50ft XLR cables? for the love of God! i am going to send you a soldering iron starter kit! lol |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 24, 2014 17:32:14 GMT -6
It's about time you did this. As soon as I saw that room I knew that's what I would do. Now for my idea, my cousin owns a pro audio and video business. He installs in wall systems all the time in homes with existing walls. That one wall to the right of your mic area now is probably a support wall that runs all the way to the sub floor. If that's true, it would be a simple matter for a pro to go in there and drill between the studs to the crawl space, blow a string and pull a snake through. Run it under the joists to where you want to put on an xlr jack plate in the floor to plug in your mics. I'd recommend a Medusa snake for that long of a run. Worth doing and probably 250 or so for the labor.
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 24, 2014 17:43:30 GMT -6
It's about time you did this. As soon as I saw that room I knew that's what I would do. Now for my idea, my cousin owns a pro audio and video business. He installs in wall systems all the time in homes with existing walls. That one wall to the right of your mic area now is probably a support wall that runs all the way to the sub floor. If that's true, it would be a simple matter for a pro to go in there and drill between the studs to the crawl space, blow a string and pull a snake through. Run it under the joists to where you want to put on an xlr jack plate in the floor to plug in your mics. I'd recommend a Medusa snake for that long of a run. Worth doing and probably 250 or so for the labor. if it's platform framed, your done before you start unless you do what SLL said, if it's balloon framed you're good, the only thing that could foil it then is fire blocking(often not done) placed at the required every 4' bottom to top plate between studs, otherwise good plan, and the shop vacuuming a fishing line thing works great. Even if it is obstructed, just knock a few holes, do your thing, and hang those pics your wife's been bugging you to hang 8) |
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 24, 2014 18:01:39 GMT -6
cowboycoalminer - right...my studio is over the garage and it backs up to that big wall to your left when you come in. I guess I could always drill a hole myself and try to fish some wire or something...Don't even think I would have to go through the sub floor - just have it come out of the wall there at the front door.
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