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Post by jeromemason on Sept 10, 2014 20:04:21 GMT -6
So, the U2 thread really got me thinking, how are people getting their music. What I'm planning on doing is polling random message boards that are completely not related to audio to see what the majority is. There is no sense in polling on here or anywhere associated with audio, because well, we are all audiophiles and have interest in this.
My poll is simple, I ask "How do you get your music" I give them these options
1. iTunes
2. Pandora
3. Spotify
4. CD
5. Radio/Satellite Radio
6. Youtube
7. I download MP3's for free
8. I download music from another site, but I pay for it
I'm polling sports message boards mostly because they offer a free board on every fan's site and the amount of people are in the hundreds of thousands, plus they have a really nice platform for polling. I'm also going to put up a poll on college forums as well because I currently attend classes at a college and can have access to them.
So, as it pours in I'll update but these seem like pretty good places to start. If it doesn't take on there I will probably just put it to bed because I'm not sure of better places honestly. I don't want to litter my Facebook either, and most people know me and wouldn't answer honestly anyways. This is totally anonymous and the only uncertainty is the age demographic in specifically how they answer, that would be nice to know, but it shouldn't matter on trying to get a broad idea.
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 10, 2014 20:40:01 GMT -6
I've had these up for like 5 mins and there's already a ton of votes. I'm not finding it surprising that most of the answers are Spotify and I download for free. At least they are being honest, most are even commenting and naming specific torrent sites in which they are stealing it from. Amazing…. I'm not going to be the substitute teacher and slap their wrist because that would kill my poll, but damn do I want to. So far, no votes for YouTube.
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Post by drbill on Sept 10, 2014 22:49:11 GMT -6
i'll be interested in the results Jerome. Sounds like it could be a good research project for a music business masters degree. :-)
I'm not sure it will be fun, but it will be interesting to see who the leading (youtube, spottily, etc.) music delivery service is...or maybe pirating is still the leader....
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Post by donr on Sept 10, 2014 23:29:44 GMT -6
Jerome, are you polling here?
Is there a poll function on this board, JK? There usually is.
I pay $120/yr for Spotify, >$250/yr for SirusXM (on two vehicles) and any ancillary recorded music purchases I might make.
I'd likely pay up to $20/mo for the ultimate jukebox in the cloud that had everything current and past. But not much more, thinking about it.
The real problem for the music business is, young people think music (youtube) is free. Because popular music needs 'radio,' and in the digital age, there's really no difference between 'radio' and on demand access, no one wants to 'own' music anymore. Myself included.
When Apple created the iTunes store, people that understood the legacy relationship between creators and consumers paid for music, even if they'd napster'ed their collection previously. The current generation doesn't understand or respect that relationship.
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 11, 2014 0:47:30 GMT -6
Just a quick update before I head to bed, but the majority is Spotify. I had numerous postings stating they felt that was the best avenue because it didn't take up any space on their devices, and that it was also better quality than Pandora. What's interesting, is that of those Spotify users nearly 3/4's of them pay for it. Some citing that they felt if they paid for it felt like they were giving money to artist. So, it seems like people do care, at least everyday people. Google play had a some showing, but YouTube, NONE, not one single person uses YouTube. It's pretty much a two horse race between Spotify and iTunes right now. As it get's more votes and as more people come on tomorrow I will keep updating. Between the sites I have the polls on, collectively, there is an average of 4,200 users at all times. As I said before, the statistics of the sites say over 250k users log in everyday. So a good sampling should come from it. If I was going to bet, I would say that Spotify will come first, iTunes 2nd, Radio 3rd, and the rest are still to small to add. Comments from those who switched to Spotify will state "I used napster and lime wire until I found out it was illegal, so now I buy from iTunes/Use spotify." So, it does seem like awareness of pirating is starting to creep in, somewhat encouraging.
One person even said "none of these, I buy vinyl from a local store because I'm a purist and not a thief" LOL. I thought that was funny.
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Post by odyssey76 on Sept 11, 2014 3:55:13 GMT -6
Good idea jeromemason. I think the sampled population and the fact that it's anonymous internet voting will yield accurate results.
I still buy CD's. I have only bought and downloaded 2 MP3's in my life! But.... My criteria for buying a CD is that I have to listen to the album tracks online and like at least 1/2 of them on the album before I buy. I will not buy a record for 1 or 2 songs. I still want an album EXPERIENCE. The artist deserves my hard earned money if I feel they've actually put the thought and creativity into an entire album - they're becoming harder and harder to find.
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Post by henge on Sept 11, 2014 6:55:17 GMT -6
Very cool! Thanks for doing this. Interesting info...
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 11, 2014 7:01:50 GMT -6
Just a quick update before I head to bed, but the majority is Spotify. I had numerous postings stating they felt that was the best avenue because it didn't take up any space on their devices, and that it was also better quality than Pandora. What's interesting, is that of those Spotify users nearly 3/4's of them pay for it. Some citing that they felt if they paid for it felt like they were giving money to artist. I would say you're either polling musicians or a large majority of those people are fibbing. |
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 11, 2014 7:48:55 GMT -6
No… Like I said I'm polling college forums and sports message boards, these people are lawyers, doctors, students, etc. people that are everyday people. I don't see why they would be fibbing…. more have said the pirate than downloading from iTunes. I suppose some of them could be music purist, but I know logistical engineers that are music purist so that really doesn't have anything to do with it being biased. If I wanted a biased poll I would had posted it on here or some other forum that had a bias in music.
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 11, 2014 12:24:37 GMT -6
Ok, so here are some numbers thus far and nothing really changed with the addition of 3x the votes so I would say this is a pretty fair broad poll. I'm going to leave them up, but most likely interest will fall by tomorrow and the Polls will disappear, so this seems to be what people are thinking.
A couple of notes on this. This was done on two different message boards that consist of an age demographic of 16-75 years of age. Most likely a majority of the respondents were probably between 18-50, because that's usually who participates in these types of things. The boards were comprised of people from all across the country, at least representing where lifestyles will change (ex. SouthEast, WestCoast, NorthEast etc.) The first batch of numbers comes from a board known to have more younger college age people, so the rise in free download is not surprising. So, take it for what it's worth, I was kind of surprised, I figured most would select iTunes or pirating, but it seems as though folks are attached to some type of service that allows them to access it quickly from their phone. I saw a lot of remarks about downloading/ripping were just too difficult to put on their phones anymore so they would rather just pay. Most of the people that selected Spotify chose the paid version, which is better in royalties than the free one, so that's some amount of a plus. It's also good to see radio/satellite staying pretty strong as well.
iTunes / 19.05%
Spotify Premium (Paid) / 33.33%
Pandora Premium (Paid) / 0.00%
CD / 2.38%
YouTube / 4.76%
Radio/Satellite Radio / 2.38%
I download MP3's for free / 23.81%
I download from another site, but I pay for it / 4.76%
Free Spotify / 2.38%
Free Pandora / 7.14%
iTunes / 21.95%
Spotify / 19.51%
Pandora / 4.88%
Youtube / 0.00%
CD / 12.20%
Download MP3's for free / 7.32%
Mostly Radio/Satellite Radio / 21.95%
Download from another source, but I pay for it / 12.20%
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 11, 2014 12:33:22 GMT -6
Were you forced into just choosing one option or could you select multiple or were there rankings?
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 11, 2014 14:51:43 GMT -6
Yeah they could only choose one option, but I did tell them to choose the one that they used the most. Most people who used more than one commented to let me know.
I'm sure with more money, a dedicated website, and a dedicated pole, you get a much better picture, but for a broad scale poll I thought it sufficed.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 11, 2014 15:02:34 GMT -6
I guess the difficult thing there is for someone like me. I get my music from all of the above (besides illegal downloads). Listen to the radio a lot in my car. Pandora (or my iTunes library) when I need some background noise at work or at home. I buy albums that I like on iTunes or Amazon or single tunes that I need to learn for a gig. Sometimes I'll buy a physical CD if I really like the artist and/or want to support them locally. Same with vinyl. Bandcamp runs the gamut from free to paid. Youtube or Spoitfy get used if I'm at the office and I need to dial up a tune quickly to show someone.
It's just difficult to pick a single one that gets the most use and I expect that it's like that for everyone. Ya know what I mean?
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