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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 23, 2014 22:09:54 GMT -6
This is a heads-up about an AES meeting I'm planning on September 18th for us to learn about this revolutionary new technology. We expect to have representatives from Telos, Avid, Waves/SoundGrid and Dante/RedNet to explain how this stuff works and to discus the new AES-67 standard along with how and why each company's approaches may, or may not differ.
This technology has already taken over broadcast and live sound. It seems obvious to me that the next generation of recording studios and DAWs can be expected to employ it. I'm hoping to also have someone from Claire Brothers contribute their experience and our moderator from Telos has wired numerous broadcast facilities using AES67. Hopefully we can get a real world perspective rather than just a sales pitch.
We'll be meeting around 5:30 although exactly where depends on if we can arrange to start the meeting with a tour of a brand new broadcast facility in downtown Nashville. I'll be finalizing our plans next week and keep everybody posted about the details as they materialize.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 22:31:44 GMT -6
Very cool!
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Post by IngEng on Aug 25, 2014 4:24:13 GMT -6
I probably won't be able to go, but glad you're setting this up to spread the word. Yeah, it'll probably be somewhat sales-pitchy, but I'm sure there will be some good info in there.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 25, 2014 17:46:37 GMT -6
Looks like we've got our tour between 5 and 7 after which we'll adjourn to our meeting room. I'll find out more details tomorrow afternoon. The tour is of the new Cumulus NASH network studios on second street and then we're hoping to continue with a tech session a couple blocks over at Rocketown. Get your pocket protectors ready! Here's a link to a video tour of the studio: Kirk will be moderating our panel. thisweekinradiotech.com/twirt-home/2014/6/13/twirt-216-cumulus-nash-tour-with-zach-harper.html
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 26, 2014 13:27:27 GMT -6
Ok, the plan is a quick trip around the studio that will be going on the air at 6PM followed by brief talk about how audio over IP technology works. Then we'll take a look at the other studios with a demonstration of two different manufacturers consoles, a touch screen and conventional. These studios are also equipped for automated video which should be very interesting.
Then we adjourn to a meeting room around 7PM for snacks, questions and discussion with Avid and, hopefully, Dante/RedNet. Waves/SoundGrid won't be able to make it.
The station address is 500-598 2nd Ave S Nashville, TN 37210. There is a lot holding around twenty cars along with additional street parking on first street behind the building.
Rocketown is 601 Fourth Ave South Nashville, TN 37210. There is a good sized parking lot.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Sept 3, 2014 15:23:02 GMT -6
Good news, we've got Kurt Howell of Focusrite and Collyer Spreen of Avid coming to do some show and tell and answer questions.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Sept 12, 2014 13:14:35 GMT -6
Great news, Phil Wagner, President of Focusrite has asked to be on our panel!
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Post by svart on Sept 12, 2014 13:41:28 GMT -6
So is this proprietary format over Ethernet copper, or actually using Ethernet protocol?
At my company we designed an old system using RS232 cables in proprietary point-to-point (daisy chain) communications format, which worked flawlessly.
At some point the bright idea to use "Ethernet" came down the pipe from high above.. So that marketing could say we were with the modern age.. So we designed the new systems to use our proprietary commands structure encapsulated in ethernet protocol packets over ethernet copper.
We've had nothing but problems because the latency over highly populated networks is erratic at best and sometimes the latencies are excruciatingly long, causing our time critical control words to be late unless long (and expensive) FIFO buffering is happening, stuff really gets fouled up.. We are investigating rewriting everything to the "mailbox" type system and getting away from timing-centric formats at the risk of alienating our installed customer base who own the old systems..
Anyway, unless it's proprietary, or point-to-point or timing centric (which by definition ethernet is not) AND on audio-only networks, I don't see how a latency critical system like audio will work in a lot of cases, especially when monitoring..
Can someone explain to me how this is different?
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Sept 12, 2014 18:02:18 GMT -6
It started out proprietary as a means of solving the latency issues although it uses off the shelf Ethernet routers. Check out Telos LiveWire. Last year an AES standard was established. The meeting is intended to get questions like yours answered.
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