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Post by geoff738 on Aug 19, 2014 19:30:17 GMT -6
Haven't had the chance to try any out. They've been mentioned on here but not a ton. Not enough for me to get a sense of what they do and whether they'd bring anything new or different to my mic locker.
What do you think of them? Where do they shine? How are they better (or different) than other mics for whatever application you like them on?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 19, 2014 19:42:56 GMT -6
Haven't had the chance to try any out. They've been mentioned on here but not a ton. Not enough for me to get a sense of what they do and whether they'd bring anything new or different to my mic locker. What do you think of them? Where do they shine? How are they better (or different) than other mics for whatever application you like them on? Cheers, Geoff I use a PR35 at my FOH gig fairly often. More bottom than 58's and my Sennheisers. If I have a thin vocalist, I usually opt for the Heil. It also has nice clarity, not quite as nice as the Neumann KMS105 though. I wish the body was thinner to fit in a regular clip too. I have a friend who always uses a PR40 on his bass cab when playing live too, but I haven't personally worked with that one. |
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Post by ericn on Aug 19, 2014 20:14:44 GMT -6
I have to of their predecessor, the Steadman N90s that are literally RE 20 elements without the constant d loading.
It's another Flavor of LD dynamic, great for the $100 I paid for the pair ( they look Like LDCs so when somebody says its got to be a condenser for the vocal you can sneak them in). I wouldn't mind more of them!
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 19, 2014 21:08:10 GMT -6
I picked up a PR40 a while back for an inside kick mic. It's my go to now. Very happy with it. I couple it with a AA CM47 fet on the outside. Good stuff!
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Post by sinasoid on Aug 20, 2014 9:40:37 GMT -6
I've been using the PR20 as a quick fix for the SM57's upper mid honk. Works quite well.
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Post by svart on Aug 20, 2014 13:23:03 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 20, 2014 14:08:55 GMT -6
If it's legit, I want some of those $35 mics! |
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Post by svart on Aug 20, 2014 14:23:42 GMT -6
Wouldn't be the first time a company claimed something was 100% designed and built by them only to find that it was an OEM product.
Some Transound capsules (like those supposedly in some of the Heil mics) are actually really good OEM modules that are used in a lot of mics. I wouldn't care that Heil used them, I would only care that they might have tried to mislead us... Which I can't say they have, it's just interesting to think that they might have.
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Post by ericn on Aug 20, 2014 14:36:49 GMT -6
Also just like speakers often a mic manufacturer will use a custom variant of an OEM capsule.
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Post by jfoc on Aug 21, 2014 7:17:02 GMT -6
I think it's important to link the manufacturers response to those claims.. www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/652790-heil-pr35-plosives.html#post7383459Sorry this is so late, but it seems like you guys want an answer from the manufacturer, so here I am. First let me tell you that I've worked for Heil Sound for 10 years and I have watched what it takes to develop all of our microphones, so I can tell you that we do NOT slap OEM parts together and put the Heil Sound name on them. This a PR 35 S that is pictured. We have since spent the money to retool the regular PR 35 body and element, so they now look unique. We have not retooled again to create the switched version because we don't sell them very fast and it costs A LOT of money to retool a mic that we just retooled. We realized that the 35 element looked like other microphone elements even though we assure you it does not and never did sound like other mics. We also spent the money to redesign the element as well. If you open a new PR 35 you will see a purple element that says Heil Sound. We did initially make the microphone with an OEM body to cut down cost. As you can image it is very, VERY expensive to produce a microphone completely from scratch. It seemed to us that the thing that truly mattered was not how it looked, but how it sounded. If we tooled every last aspect of our microphones from scratch they would probably cost over $1000 each. I think we can all agree that in a microphone we DON'T want to pay for what it looks like, but we will pay for what it sounds like (except for The Fin . I hope this answers your question and as always if you have issues, repairs (africantigercow), or if you just want to say Hi! call us, email us, tweet us, or get in touch in any way possible and we will be happy to talk to you. -Michelle 618-257-3000 or info@heilsound.com or @heilsound For what it's worth I am a fan of the PR40, will likely get some other models down the line |
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Post by svart on Aug 21, 2014 7:38:17 GMT -6
I think it's important to link the manufacturers response to those claims.. www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/652790-heil-pr35-plosives.html#post7383459Sorry this is so late, but it seems like you guys want an answer from the manufacturer, so here I am. First let me tell you that I've worked for Heil Sound for 10 years and I have watched what it takes to develop all of our microphones, so I can tell you that we do NOT slap OEM parts together and put the Heil Sound name on them. This a PR 35 S that is pictured. We have since spent the money to retool the regular PR 35 body and element, so they now look unique. We have not retooled again to create the switched version because we don't sell them very fast and it costs A LOT of money to retool a mic that we just retooled. We realized that the 35 element looked like other microphone elements even though we assure you it does not and never did sound like other mics. We also spent the money to redesign the element as well. If you open a new PR 35 you will see a purple element that says Heil Sound. We did initially make the microphone with an OEM body to cut down cost. As you can image it is very, VERY expensive to produce a microphone completely from scratch. It seemed to us that the thing that truly mattered was not how it looked, but how it sounded. If we tooled every last aspect of our microphones from scratch they would probably cost over $1000 each. I think we can all agree that in a microphone we DON'T want to pay for what it looks like, but we will pay for what it sounds like (except for The Fin . I hope this answers your question and as always if you have issues, repairs (africantigercow), or if you just want to say Hi! call us, email us, tweet us, or get in touch in any way possible and we will be happy to talk to you. -Michelle 618-257-3000 or info@heilsound.com or @heilsound For what it's worth I am a fan of the PR40, will likely get some other models down the line Possibly, but as you know, manufacturers are all about protecting their marketing. That's just what they do. Their response was and emotional plea, all about how hard they've worked and changed the "new" models, but didn't really say that what was pictured was false. To me, it seemed like misdirection (to switch the subject to what they were doing now rather than what was pictured), much like what happened when Telefunken came out with the M-16 and AK47 mics.. And turned out to be the same chinese OEM mic as the Apex460.. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 22, 2014 18:46:59 GMT -6
I have the PR-35 in front of the mouth of a Grammy winner tonight and it's sounding killer.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 22, 2014 20:39:04 GMT -6
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Post by nobtwiddler on Aug 23, 2014 11:16:14 GMT -6
Luther "Guitar Jr." Johnson & the Magic Rockers.
Haha
How was the show?
I just mastered his new release, due out later this year!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 23, 2014 11:26:22 GMT -6
Luther "Guitar Jr." Johnson & the Magic Rockers. Haha How was the show? I just mastered his new release, due out later this year! Show was great. I've mixed his shows a handful of times now and always have a good time working with them. I've known Jack, the other guitarist for quite a while now too and he can rip. Luther and his band are nice guys with a great old style blues. The Heil really fit his voice well too. Gave him a little extra oomph in the lows to fill it out. Looking forward to checking out the new album. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 11, 2014 19:26:32 GMT -6
I've got the PR-35 up tonight on Albert Castiglia and it sounds killer. I had a Senny 935 up and it didn't have enough meat. The Heil was just the ticket tonight.
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