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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 19, 2014 12:32:59 GMT -6
My friend Levon's click thread got me thinking, and i wanted to know what "click" you fella's would recommend? I can hardly stand them, IME they are usually very clinical and anti music in their sound. When i do use a click, i will usually record it to a track, then automate and ride the fader complimentary/rhythmically to the idea i have in my head, if i can't create a click that has at least a smidge of groove(which imo, is the most it will ever have 8), i won't use it at all. IME, a great way to kill my own inspiration, is conflating my ideas to the clock ticking on the wall. As a side, i'm sure this is common, but If i'm multitracking myself with a click, i will shift tempo's a tick or 2 around the tune and punch, although it breaks congruence, the slight shifts in tempo give intangible points of interest/excitement throughout a piece for a listener, even guys with great time have a hard time pointing to a single tick in either direction. Also another really cool trick to do when you are multitracking by yourself, is to video yourself during the tracking, get your instrument and your face/hands in the frame(especially drummers), then watch and listen as you overdub, the musical visual cues of jamming with people are completely missing from overdubbing otherwise.
That said, all the stuff mentioned above pales in comparison to a group of fella's with a common vision, in a room feeding off of each other IME.
Musical click plug recommendations?
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 19, 2014 12:40:11 GMT -6
This doesn't help much, but the clicks in PT11 are awesome...Marimbas, MPC, cowbell, etc.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 19, 2014 12:40:17 GMT -6
Most musical to me is no click at all. I use a snare and kick sample quantized to the grid. Like Novocain, works every time.
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Post by svart on Aug 19, 2014 13:05:15 GMT -6
I dunno, in Reaper I can use WAV files as the click samples, so I can (and have) do kick and snare samples for folks who have trouble with normal metronome tones.
I can also adjust the time of the generic tone from so short that it's a sharp "CLICK" to a long "BEEP".
So I've never really looked at any other options out there.
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Post by donr on Aug 19, 2014 14:21:44 GMT -6
Digital Performer also has a nice assortment of click sounds. Including... a cowbell.
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Post by wiz on Aug 19, 2014 15:39:07 GMT -6
Digital Performer also has a nice assortment of click sounds. Including... a cowbell. that actually got a real laugh out loud from me, well played sir 8) cheers Wiz
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Post by LesC on Aug 19, 2014 20:41:50 GMT -6
I either do a rough drum track or I just use a keyboard to get a few bars of bass drum and snare in a beat that matches the rhythm in my head so that I don't have to listen to a click.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 19, 2014 22:29:51 GMT -6
Digital Performer also has a nice assortment of click sounds. Including... a cowbell. I just hit the floor... Made my day better donr, thanks!
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Post by levon on Aug 19, 2014 23:44:53 GMT -6
Digital Performer also has a nice assortment of click sounds. Including... a cowbell. that actually got a real laugh out loud from me, well played sir 8) cheers Wiz Digital Performer also has a nice assortment of click sounds. Including... a cowbell. I just hit the floor... Made my day better donr, thanks! Made me laugh too, but funny enough, for me, a cowbell sound is best to cut through every backing track. Might have to do with my effed-up hearing. The click in Logic is really meh, not useful at all for me. Same goes for Logic's Klopfgeist plugin. That's why I like that Metronomer site, it's fast and easy and it works for me. What do pro studios use to generate the click? Every time I see a 'Making of' with studio footage, I hear that distinct, well, cowbell click. When I worked in major studios in the 1980s, I never paid attention to that.
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Post by levon on Aug 20, 2014 0:04:46 GMT -6
Found the answer in my thread, thanks DrBill! Now I need an Urei 964...
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Post by henge on Aug 20, 2014 7:00:48 GMT -6
For some reason I usually end up with a basic kick,snare, hat pattern with a very quiet click in the background. Actually never been bothered by the click... But as mentioned before Reaper can use whatever sounds you want for primary and secondary clicks. Pretty cool. Tony, great idea about the video...
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