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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 22, 2024 21:52:03 GMT -6
Auto Algin 2 is great. BUT you NEED to read the manual. It does NOT work like the original one and if you use it wrong it...well sounds wrong. Autoalign 1 is easier to use. Autoalign 2 is better but you have to learn how it works. It's "easy" but can be used wrong easily too. So just to confirm I still won’t have to read the manual, you just group together multimiked same source and hit align…right?
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Post by geoff738 on Nov 22, 2024 22:09:27 GMT -6
So dumb question. Do all these work just by sliding things forwards or back in time? If so can you just do it manually with a sample delay and a correlation meter?
Or is there some voodoo under the hood going on with these?
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 22, 2024 22:25:13 GMT -6
So dumb question. Do all these work just by sliding things forwards or back in time? If so can you just do it manually with a sample delay and a correlation meter? Or is there some voodoo under the hood going on with these? Cheers, Geoff I've been doing this manually for years, if only it was that easy, the waveforms are far from identical, so when you align you listen and often it's not as good as you thought it would be, then you move it again and it gets better sometimes and worse sometimes, that is why earlier in this thread I said "even when i'm done aligning, in the back of my head it nags me whether i got it to the best it can be, or not?" I'd love to do this automatically with AA2, it seems it has a sophisticated algo that is simply more of a man than I am lol
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Post by nicksteinborn on Nov 22, 2024 22:49:13 GMT -6
I don't like the Melda one, and I am generally a big advocate of their stuff. Their phase one just doesn't ever seem to work quite right. Auto Align gives better results every time, IME. Agreed. I tried to save a buck grabbing the Melda one first. Auto-Align 1 just seems to be consistently better when I use it. Haven't tried 2 yet.
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Post by copperx on Nov 22, 2024 23:54:20 GMT -6
Auto Algin 2 is great. BUT you NEED to read the manual. It does NOT work like the original one and if you use it wrong it...well sounds wrong. Autoalign 1 is easier to use. Autoalign 2 is better but you have to learn how it works. It's "easy" but can be used wrong easily too. When I demoed it I hated how easy it was to turn on the multiband phase alignment, which gives me the creeps. I still want to buy it, but I wish they made it less of a footgun.
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Post by copperx on Nov 23, 2024 0:42:12 GMT -6
So dumb question. Do all these work just by sliding things forwards or back in time? If so can you just do it manually with a sample delay and a correlation meter? Or is there some voodoo under the hood going on with these? Cheers, Geoff It's technically simple, I think. The program slides waveforms against each other and finds the local maximums of the correlations. Then it picks the highest, but also lets you pick alternatives. What's difficult is the interface and the implementation. Using ARA and all that.
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 23, 2024 10:06:59 GMT -6
Auto Algin 2 is great. BUT you NEED to read the manual. It does NOT work like the original one and if you use it wrong it...well sounds wrong. Autoalign 1 is easier to use. Autoalign 2 is better but you have to learn how it works. It's "easy" but can be used wrong easily too. I read the manual and it answered a lot of the questions I had, when I phase align drums manually I always make sure overheads and rooms are slid err to the backside of close mic’d elements, unless I’m overtly trying to manipulate feel after the fact by pushing or laying back(almost never happens unless desperate) It seems that AA2 will allow this to happen by choice…. It strikes me as a very well thought out program I’m gonna buy it as soon as the Black Friday deal drops in a couple days, I hope it saves me a bunch of time in the future
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