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Post by mike on Nov 10, 2024 9:24:47 GMT -6
Hi, Two questions for people more knowledgeable than I, as I am ready to sell my 1964 Fender Jazzmaster (and probably my Klaus 67.)
1. While I am not found of selling on Reverb for multiple reasons, and I’ve had good luck selling things on Facebook marketplace meeting buyer directly, has anyone had any issues selling higher dollar items like a 64 Jazzmaster or Klaus 67 on Facebook marketplace doing cash and carry ?
2. While I've received some good info from a friend, I’m wondering from people more knowledgable than I, what the high/low listing price should be to sell my 1964 Fender Jazzmaster?
( It's a Pre-CBS 1964 Jazzmaster, all original except for refinish/pickguard, volume/tone knobs, and the frets have been redone. Photos at imgur.com/a/RKXQA8iThank you,
Mike |
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Post by doubledog on Nov 10, 2024 9:47:03 GMT -6
I think as long as you meet in a place you are both comfortable with and do a cash transaction, then you should be good. I'll take Venmo (or rarely PayPal) for a few smaller items but if it gets to be more than a couple hundred bucks, I won't chance the scams (the biggest being the buyer attaches a stolen credit card - and you may not know until months later when Venmo just takes the money back from your bank account and the item you sold is long gone)
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 10, 2024 10:02:16 GMT -6
Cash is king! Send detailed pictures of the guitar to Gruhn in Nashville and have him authenticate and give a write up on the guitar and price it for you. It’ll cost a few bucks but you’ll know the guitars exact worth.
You’re going to need pictures of the neck stamp and the back of the pickups to make sure everything matches. The refin is going to take some value of the guitar away but with the right buyer you should get what you ask for it.
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Post by honkeur on Nov 10, 2024 23:23:09 GMT -6
The issue here with cash-n-carry, though, is that a 1964 Jazzmaster is going require a tall stack of cash ! I personally would not want to have to carry around >$10k of cash, as either a buyer or seller. Counting out $10k in a Starbucks doesn't sound like fun.
I recently sold an 1965 P-Bass as consignment through a respected dealer in NYC. Yes they took 20%, but for me it was worth it knowing that I wasn't responsible for the logistics of the transaction. The check just appeared in my mailbox.
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Post by doubledog on Nov 11, 2024 9:21:21 GMT -6
I'm not up on prices of vintage guitars... but if it was more than $1K, I'd probably consider something like Zelle too (but it would still have to be a in-person transaction). It's pretty instant and I'm not aware of any scams (it's bank to bank but not all banks support it) and the one thing you do have to be careful of is making sure you are sending to the right person since once sent, you can't undo it.
And if it's $10K or more then what about meeting at a bank and doing a wire transfer? It's kind of like buying a used car at that point isn't it?
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Post by bluesholyman on Nov 12, 2024 12:13:55 GMT -6
I've sold a $2K Martin acoustic to a FB buyer, cash/carry and had no issues. I get them on the phone and confirm the price, assuming its as described and make sure we agree so we are not wasting each others time. I also try not to sell it to them when I talk to them. I don't mean act like I don't want to sell it, but I am very matter of fact about the price and what will/won't happen. I'm ok if it blows up the deal because that tells me they are not the buyer I want. I also generally meet at a Starbucks as there are cameras inside that see a lot. A chik-fil-a is another good spot, absent of a starbucks near by. I wouldn't do Wendys', BK, etc.
Agree should have it authenticated and valued before selling, largely to keep the idots from trying to talk you down, or questioning it. Consigning through a dealer could save some pain, but it'll cost.
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 12, 2024 12:28:22 GMT -6
anytime you make a big $ sale or purchase bring a friend and make sure the other party does the same, if they aren't willing to do that givem the one fingered salute, if they agree meet them in a very public place in a upper end neighborhood with no easy escape routes, seems ridiculous until you get robbed
Reality is if you get pulled over the chances the cops will take your $ are greater than a civi(see civil asset forfeiture, it's legal state sanctioned crime that's abused way more than you'd think)
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Post by poppaflavor on Nov 12, 2024 12:46:00 GMT -6
The issue here with cash-n-carry, though, is that a 1964 Jazzmaster is going require a tall stack of cash ! I personally would not want to have to carry around >$10k of cash, as either a buyer or seller. Counting out $10k in a Starbucks doesn't sound like fun. I recently sold an 1965 P-Bass as consignment through a respected dealer in NYC. Yes they took 20%, but for me it was worth it knowing that I wasn't responsible for the logistics of the transaction. The check just appeared in my mailbox. You could always do what this fellow did. doubledog this is count as a safe enough place for you? :-) reverb.com/item/81935598-10-pcs-nos-nib-factory-sealed-western-electric-111c-audio-input-transformers-in-seattleIt was initially $25,000, but he's since taken $20,000 off from when I first looked so maybe that police station isn't quite necessary anymore lol. He drops that price anymore he'll be meeting in a Dollar general parking lot. |
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Post by doubledog on Nov 12, 2024 14:56:14 GMT -6
You could always do what this fellow did. doubledog this is count as a safe enough place for you? :-) I have seen some articles/posting from my local police department recommending that people do FB or CL transactions at the police stations. Kind of does make sense if its big $ items. I never have big $ items.  |
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Post by mike on Nov 12, 2024 19:15:43 GMT -6
Thanks to all for your comments, much appreciated. I had thought about doing a cash and carry exchange for higher dollar items at police stations for extra security (over my usual meet at Walmart camera locations) but have yet to do one wondering if police stations would be unreceptive, but the great thing about mentioning that idea to a prospective buyer is it weeds out the scammers instantly. Cash is king! Send detailed pictures of the guitar to Gruhn in Nashville and have him authenticate and give a write up on the guitar and price it for you. It’ll cost a few bucks but you’ll know the guitars exact worth. Thanks for this great suggestion Jeremy, I had no idea Gruhn did both in person appraisal, and Hi Res Photo/info appraisals which gives both buyer and seller more confidence I think. I sent my material in and received a detailed appraisal same day. Thanks! Mike |
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Post by russellcreekps on Nov 12, 2024 19:18:42 GMT -6
The issue here with cash-n-carry, though, is that a 1964 Jazzmaster is going require a tall stack of cash ! I personally would not want to have to carry around >$10k of cash, as either a buyer or seller. Counting out $10k in a Starbucks doesn't sound like fun. I recently sold an 1965 P-Bass as consignment through a respected dealer in NYC. Yes they took 20%, but for me it was worth it knowing that I wasn't responsible for the logistics of the transaction. The check just appeared in my mailbox. Yeah, above $5K I’d probably ask for bank draft |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 12, 2024 19:29:48 GMT -6
Thanks to all for your comments, much appreciated. I had thought about doing a cash and carry exchange for higher dollar items at police stations for extra security (over my usual meet at Walmart camera locations) but have yet to do one wondering if police stations would be unreceptive, but the great thing about mentioning that idea to a prospective buyer is it weeds out the scammers instantly. Cash is king! Send detailed pictures of the guitar to Gruhn in Nashville and have him authenticate and give a write up on the guitar and price it for you. It’ll cost a few bucks but you’ll know the guitars exact worth. Thanks for this great suggestion Jeremy, I had no idea Gruhn did both in person appraisal, and Hi Res Photo/info appraisals which gives both buyer and seller more confidence I think. I sent my material in and received a detailed appraisal same day. Thanks! Mike Do you mind me asking what price they came back with? |
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Post by mike on Nov 12, 2024 21:38:42 GMT -6
Do you mind me asking what price they came back with? Not at all. After sending them Hi Res photos they could zoom in on for detail along with the info I sent them on this Pre CBS early 1964 Jazzmaster, they came back with a nice detailed appraisal like you said. Saying that while the single-line" Kluson Deluxe tuners with metal buttons, single rectangular "butterfly" string tree, 21-fret Brazilian rosewood veneer fingerboard with "clay dot" fingerboard inlays all helped my cause because they were not used on this model after Fall 1964, - it's the Refinishing in general, even when done to the high professional standard they noted that knocks down the overall value considerably,.. as they said that an excellent unmodified condition with the original three-tone sunburst finish current market value would be $16,000. And this one that is all original except for the refinish/pickguard, volume/tone knobs, and frets were redone at imgur.com/a/RKXQA8iThey valued at $7,500 |
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Post by vvvooojjj on Nov 13, 2024 1:55:22 GMT -6
Extremely good looking guitar.
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