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Post by phdamage on Oct 31, 2024 19:09:48 GMT -6
I got to check one off my bucket list and booked a session in Studio B at Electrical Audio last week. I was playing drums and recording with help from my dear friend, Shane (of Howl Street Recording in Milwaukee), and we had the wonderful Greg Norman for our first day (well worth the extra $$ to have him instead of other staff engineers - he's a super knowledgeable and nice guy!). we spent the bulk of our first day shooting the shit, shooting out different snares (I brought 4) and mics. Man, what a special place!? I can't imagine many better places to track drums for mid tempo loud rock stuff. But that room was incredible! The gear was phenomenal (and everything worked!!!). I def went a bit overboard, I had half-jokingly stated I was aiming to use $75k in mics on the drums alone. I think I ended up around $65k, so I suggested we use the U48 as a front of kit mic, but Greg told me that would be cheating. Sadly, it'll prob be a while til i can share the recordings at all, but I honestly can't wait til that day comes. here was my mic list: kick in - m380 kick out - U195 kick batter - Crown GLM100 snare top - 175A snare top2 - m201 snare bot - 441 rack top - e22 rack bot - e22 floor top - e22 floor bot - e22 OH - C24 (xy) OH2 - SM2 (xy) OH3 - 4038 (spaced pair) ride - c42 room - CMV563 pair with N55k caps room2 - 4038 pair facing straight up here's some pics and i think a short video (hoping this works, trying to save some bandwidth for the board) |
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Post by sean on Oct 31, 2024 20:02:21 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing! I need to put “record songs with other engineers” on my list. Love those Jenkins Martin drums!
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Post by phdamage on Oct 31, 2024 20:10:07 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing! I need to put “record songs with other engineers” on my list. Love those Jenkins Martin drums! Those Jenkins Martin kits are amazing. I have one and text Scott every six months to see if they’re taking orders again. Also def stoked I lugged my 24lbs bell bronze snare on the plane for this! It beat two keplingers! |
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Post by seawell on Oct 31, 2024 20:50:55 GMT -6
This is awesome! Congrats and thanks for sharing 👍🏼
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Post by drumsound on Oct 31, 2024 21:12:04 GMT -6
That's fantastic. Greg Norman is awesome on MANY levels. I've been to Electrical, but never had the chance to work there.
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Post by ericn on Oct 31, 2024 21:51:05 GMT -6
I got to check one off my bucket list and booked a session in Studio B at Electrical Audio last week. I was playing drums and recording with help from my dear friend, Shane (of Howl Street Recording in Milwaukee), and we had the wonderful Greg Norman for our first day (well worth the extra $$ to have him instead of other staff engineers - he's a super knowledgeable and nice guy!). we spent the bulk of our first day shooting the shit, shooting out different snares (I brought 4) and mics. Man, what a special place!? I can't imagine many better places to track drums for mid tempo loud rock stuff. But that room was incredible! The gear was phenomenal (and everything worked!!!). I def went a bit overboard, I had half-jokingly stated I was aiming to use $75k in mics on the drums alone. I think I ended up around $65k, so I suggested we use the U48 as a front of kit mic, but Greg told me that would be cheating. Sadly, it'll prob be a while til i can share the recordings at all, but I honestly can't wait til that day comes. here was my mic list: kick in - m380 kick out - U195 kick batter - Crown GLM100 snare top - 175A snare top2 - m201 snare bot - 441 rack top - e22 rack bot - e22 floor top - e22 floor bot - e22 OH - C24 (xy) OH2 - SM2 (xy) OH3 - 4038 (spaced pair) ride - c42 room - CMV563 pair with N55k caps room2 - 4038 pair facing straight up here's some pics and i think a short video (hoping this works, trying to save some bandwidth for the board) Indeed! |
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Post by drumsound on Oct 31, 2024 21:57:59 GMT -6
I think I might try the ribbons pointing up room deal this weekend.
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Post by copperx on Nov 1, 2024 10:53:23 GMT -6
Amazing!
Question - did you have a chance to listen to the raw tracks? I wanted to know how you felt about the sound of the U195 on the outer kick. I've been curious about how it sounds on the kick.
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Post by damoongo on Nov 1, 2024 10:55:19 GMT -6
I think I might try the ribbons pointing up room deal this weekend. Up and down (fig 8). Basically nulls the direct from the drums and grabs the diffuse reflections. Great if you like your room! |
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Post by drumsound on Nov 1, 2024 10:58:19 GMT -6
I think I might try the ribbons pointing up room deal this weekend. Up and down (fig 8). Basically nulls the direct from the drums and grabs the diffuse reflections. Great if you like your room! I love my room and I love trying new ways to mic it. |
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Post by kbsmoove on Nov 1, 2024 11:35:29 GMT -6
i hope to track there one day. i've mixed some tracks from electrical B and while the engineering wasn't great (i don't know who the engineer was - got the tracks years after they were recorded from the band. wasn't steve or greg.), the room sound was undeniably amazing. the place is iconic for a reason!
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Post by svart on Nov 1, 2024 13:29:56 GMT -6
What's weird is the total lack of vibe. It's just a feng sui mess, lol. Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures.
People spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on sound control and here this place is, nothing but exposed blocks and hard surfaces.
If it works, it works I guess.
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Post by Quint on Nov 1, 2024 13:34:37 GMT -6
What's weird is the total lack of vibe. It's just a feng sui mess, lol. Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures. People spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on sound control and here this place is, nothing but exposed blocks and hard surfaces. If it works, it works I guess. There's actually more going on there, acoustically, than what might seem apparent at first glance. I read about it years ago, and there was a good deal of thought put into acoustics. I'm with you on the red walls though. I would have gone with different colors, but to each their own. |
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Post by skav on Nov 1, 2024 13:38:24 GMT -6
Great, thanks for sharing! Photo of Steve Albini among others hangs on the wall next to the patchbay  RIP! |
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Post by recordingengineer on Nov 1, 2024 14:45:46 GMT -6
Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures. People are funny about color of walls in studios. You can’t win! Last studio I had, I had red walls with whitish soffits and whitish traps in the control room and most people didn’t comment about the paint color. I expanded and completely remodeled the control room some years later with natural, neutral tones and no one really commented there either. The studio side was huge with 14ft ceilings and with natural and neutral, light tones the entire time. The whole time, it seemed damn-near everyone commented: “You should paint at least one wall in here for some color. I think red would be nice.” It went to a record-label next, gear and all. What’s the first thing they did? Painted damn-near every wall red! |
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Post by svart on Nov 1, 2024 15:38:39 GMT -6
Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures. People are funny about color of walls in studios. You can’t win! Last studio I had, I had red walls with whitish soffits and whitish traps in the control room and most people didn’t comment about the paint color. I expanded and completely remodeled the control room some years later with natural, neutral tones and no one really commented there either. The studio side was huge with 14ft ceilings and with natural and neutral, light tones the entire time. The whole time, it seemed damn-near everyone commented: “You should paint at least one wall in here for some color. I think red would be nice.” It went to a record-label next, gear and all. What’s the first thing they did? Painted damn-near every wall red! I've found myself to be pretty sensitive about colors around me. It can't be too brutishly bright, and not too dark. |
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Post by drumsound on Nov 1, 2024 15:58:24 GMT -6
What's weird is the total lack of vibe. It's just a feng sui mess, lol. Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures. People spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on sound control and here this place is, nothing but exposed blocks and hard surfaces. If it works, it works I guess. Very punk rock, it was Steve's workshop. That's how he saw it. Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures. People are funny about color of walls in studios. You can’t win! Last studio I had, I had red walls with whitish soffits and whitish traps in the control room and most people didn’t comment about the paint color. I expanded and completely remodeled the control room some years later with natural, neutral tones and no one really commented there either. The studio side was huge with 14ft ceilings and with natural and neutral, light tones the entire time. The whole time, it seemed damn-near everyone commented: “You should paint at least one wall in here for some color. I think red would be nice.” It went to a record-label next, gear and all. What’s the first thing they did? Painted damn-near every wall red! I absolutely HATE neutral off white/tan/beige and would be way more turned off by that look. I have lights blues and in the live room, a darker green in the control room, with a lighter green ceiling. I redid the booth a couple years ago and didthe window wall with green crushed velvet and the other walls in purple crushed velvet. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2024 16:51:59 GMT -6
What's weird is the total lack of vibe. It's just a feng sui mess, lol. Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures. People spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on sound control and here this place is, nothing but exposed blocks and hard surfaces. If it works, it works I guess. Very punk rock, it was Steve's workshop. That's how he saw it. People are funny about color of walls in studios. You can’t win! Last studio I had, I had red walls with whitish soffits and whitish traps in the control room and most people didn’t comment about the paint color. I expanded and completely remodeled the control room some years later with natural, neutral tones and no one really commented there either. The studio side was huge with 14ft ceilings and with natural and neutral, light tones the entire time. The whole time, it seemed damn-near everyone commented: “You should paint at least one wall in here for some color. I think red would be nice.” It went to a record-label next, gear and all. What’s the first thing they did? Painted damn-near every wall red! I absolutely HATE neutral off white/tan/beige and would be way more turned off by that look. I have lights blues and in the live room, a darker green in the control room, with a lighter green ceiling. I redid the booth a couple years ago and didthe window wall with green crushed velvet and the other walls in purple crushed velvet. In this day and age honestly in a for hire room white walls with LED lighting angled top and bottom as a poor man’s Cyclorama seams like a no brainer, what color you want today boss? |
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2024 16:57:23 GMT -6
What's weird is the total lack of vibe. It's just a feng sui mess, lol. Those red walls have my anxiety up and I'm just looking at pictures. People spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on sound control and here this place is, nothing but exposed blocks and hard surfaces. If it works, it works I guess. Very punk rock, it was Steve's workshop. That's how he saw it. People are funny about color of walls in studios. You can’t win! Last studio I had, I had red walls with whitish soffits and whitish traps in the control room and most people didn’t comment about the paint color. I expanded and completely remodeled the control room some years later with natural, neutral tones and no one really commented there either. The studio side was huge with 14ft ceilings and with natural and neutral, light tones the entire time. The whole time, it seemed damn-near everyone commented: “You should paint at least one wall in here for some color. I think red would be nice.” It went to a record-label next, gear and all. What’s the first thing they did? Painted damn-near every wall red! I absolutely HATE neutral off white/tan/beige and would be way more turned off by that look. I have lights blues and in the live room, a darker green in the control room, with a lighter green ceiling. I redid the booth a couple years ago and didthe window wall with green crushed velvet and the other walls in purple crushed velvet. Yeah while Steve & Co, are definitely a bit more scientific in their approach than the the guys at Smart were the punk DIY basics always shined through. I think Steve found it absolutely hilarious how Styoks design completely changed the sound of Smart from what everyone had been accustomed to so much so that Changing Electricical was completely off limits. |
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Post by recordingengineer on Nov 1, 2024 17:52:32 GMT -6
In this day and age honestly in a for hire room white walls with LED lighting angled top and bottom as a poor man’s Cyclorama seams like a no brainer, what color you want today boss? Absolutely! Green Day  |
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Post by notneeson on Nov 1, 2024 18:20:29 GMT -6
My favorite spaces have natural light. One room I book does have red walls, can’t say I’ve ever had a bad experience there.
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Post by skav on Nov 1, 2024 18:38:51 GMT -6
On Color Psychology, this website says:"Red: love, passion, anger Red is one of the most intense, stimulating colors that raises a room’s energy. Muted shades can pique feelings of love, passion, and sensuality, while bright hues may trigger anger, strength, and power. It’s a warm, generally positive, motivating color that encourages people to act and gives shy, soft-spoken folks more confidence. A little red goes a long way—just an accent wall or a few items of decor are enough to invigorate you. Physical effects: Faster and more powerful reactions, higher blood pressure and heart rate, faster respiration Best in: Dining rooms, living rooms, entryways, kitchens, rooms for entertainment Worst in: Bedrooms, rooms where you want to relax"
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Post by phdamage on Nov 1, 2024 19:21:41 GMT -6
Amazing! Question - did you have a chance to listen to the raw tracks? I wanted to know how you felt about the sound of the U195 on the outer kick. I've been curious about how it sounds on the kick. Oh yeah! Been listening to raw files since I got home! It does a great job on kick reso - I used to use it there often. I do normally use my Lawson 47 FET there at home but opted for the U195 when I looked at their mic list. After I had it up Greg mentioned they had a reissue FET47 but I didn’t feel like switching it |
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Post by drumsound on Nov 1, 2024 22:10:26 GMT -6
Very punk rock, it was Steve's workshop. That's how he saw it. I absolutely HATE neutral off white/tan/beige and would be way more turned off by that look. I have lights blues and in the live room, a darker green in the control room, with a lighter green ceiling. I redid the booth a couple years ago and didthe window wall with green crushed velvet and the other walls in purple crushed velvet. Yeah while Steve & Co, are definitely a bit more scientific in their approach than the the guys at Smart were the punk DIY basics always shined through. I think Steve found it absolutely hilarious how Styoks design completely changed the sound of Smart from what everyone had been accustomed to so much so that Changing Electricical was completely off limits. I hope he put that in his will/trust. Not that Greg and the gang there now would want to change it... My favorite spaces have natural light. One room I book does have red walls, can’t say I’ve ever had a bad experience there. I feel like such an oddball, but natural light is about the last thing I want in my studio this side of smoke. Amazing! Question - did you have a chance to listen to the raw tracks? I wanted to know how you felt about the sound of the U195 on the outer kick. I've been curious about how it sounds on the kick. Oh yeah! Been listening to raw files since I got home! It does a great job on kick reso - I used to use it there often. I do normally use my Lawson 47 FET there at home but opted for the U195 when I looked at their mic list. After I had it up Greg mentioned they had a reissue FET47 but I didn’t feel like switching it Did you track to tape and transfer to digital, or start digital from the get go? |
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Post by phdamage on Nov 2, 2024 7:21:27 GMT -6
Nah. All digital. Tape would have been fun but I knew that would add so much time. I did a million takes for each project. Of course now I’m parsing through like 8 hours of takes but it meant less running up and down those stairs for me.
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RIP!
