Softube console 1 mkiii fader and other thing

If you can live within the Softube / UAD ecosystem a nice s system for mixing, not so much for tracking. If they had built it with something like my RADAR controller and expandable it would be pretty sweet. The dream would be if Softube embraced the idea of a user built / supported database of maps for non compatible plugins. But their primary business is selling their plugins & Im thinking like a lighting guy.

Really the problem is this: every decent control surface uses a proprietary protocol, HUI isn’t just outdated it’s over 30 years old.

Softube are u-He for guitars but their tape plugs and delays aren’t as good. Their primary business is selling amp sims and plugs to modify them and samples and they are excellent at that. Their plugs used on real recordings? I’d stick to the Weiss and the fx.

It should be fine, but what always worries me with 2 manufacturers partnerships is what happens if say Softube gets bought or UA says “we can do better “.

Now I’ll say it again if someone wants to make some money and do some good design a Codec so an OLD Alesis BRC can be used with all the major DAW’s.

It's great Wiz.

I use it to control my UAD and UADx plugins.

It's great for navigating large Cubase projects.

And contrary to the usual (I've never used one but I'll diss it anyway - stuff you read on forums) the Softube channels do sound very good to my ears.

I really like the Brit channel and the SSL 9K channels.

I bought MK1 new it was £350.

nobody said the softube channels sound bad. The British class a sounds very cool and is better than many other neve emualtions. The problem is the phasing of the top end, changing the sound and drastically affecting the recorded stereo image and any high frequency distortion or noise common to many recorded guitars and synthesizers. This is undesirable. Now if all of your music is fake like dis into an amp sim, drum samples, vsti synths like many genres of modern pop, rock, edm, and metal where the production quality is marginal and there is no attempt to create a real space this can be negligible. Otherwise, it is to be avoided.

It didn’t at first, didn’t UA and Softube set that up later, and then there was some controversy about which plugs were usable and which weren’t ?

Yes you're right - they added the support later on.

I can control plugins like the Hitsville EQ and the API EQ's .... I find it very useful and a neat workflow in Cubase.

@fm that’s kinda why I sold it too. I started wondering if there was any true efficiency over mouse/track pad, I still had to invoke some change in the controller, but now, you were somewhat trapped in its environment, rather than just doing what you want directly.

Every controller I have had used has added some extra layer somewhere and it’s environment learning curve. I concluded it wasn’t more efficient and it doesn’t have transport controls.

Personally, I’d consider the new Nektar controller first, but I also use logic.

This is why I like the options that manipulate your mouse/keyboard. There is no additional layer to contend with and they're basically compatible with everything. These sort of solutions, like Stream Deck and the Rocksolid Micro 3, require no wrappers or anything else. They just manipulate your mouse and keyboard a lot faster than you could ever do by hand, with the added bonus that there are no compatibility issues or loss of certain features (such as side chain) like you might experience with other options that require you to work inside a wrapper or other "environment".