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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 27, 2024 11:07:39 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 27, 2024 11:08:43 GMT -6
Listening to The Logical Song - THAT is a damn balanced mix. Punchy, smooth top, balanced extremely well, wide...
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Post by skav on Sept 27, 2024 15:21:38 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing Johnkenn , it's been a while since I last heard it. Big, spacious, dynamic, wonderful! A great song with meaningful lyrics. Here it is for those who don't use Itunes: |
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Post by FM77 on Sept 28, 2024 8:17:26 GMT -6
Listening to The Logical Song - THAT is a damn balanced mix. Punchy, smooth top, balanced extremely well, wide... Its easy on the body and spirit to listen to.
Unfortunately, those vintage, understated, non punchy drum tones don't relate or agree with modern production sense for many. A kick and snare that isn't hyper punchy sounds small and weak to the modern music maker. We have grown accustomed to it. Try to produce a song with old school, low production drums tones. It takes alot of discipline as they tend to sound 'low quality' by todays standards and the urge is to uplevel them.
As soon as we start with hyped modern drums, the instrumentation is paced to match. I find it exhausting listening to alot of modern music.
I have personal production 'rock oriented' songs, using old school, 70s, damped and understated drums. Despite the fact this allows for dynamic, breathable, understated instrument tones and performances to match, they sound almost like a demo when played against anything modern.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 28, 2024 8:59:15 GMT -6
Listening to The Logical Song - THAT is a damn balanced mix. Punchy, smooth top, balanced extremely well, wide... Its easy on the body and spirit to listen to. Unfortunately, those vintage, understated, non punchy drum tones don't relate or agree with modern production sense for many. A kick and snare that isn't hyper punchy sounds small and weak to the modern music maker. We have grown accustomed to it. Try to produce a song with old school, low production drums tones. It takes alot of discipline as they tend to sound 'low quality' by todays standards and the urge is to uplevel them.
As soon as we start with hyped modern drums, the instrumentation is paced to match. I find it exhausting listening to alot of modern music.
I have personal production 'rock oriented' songs, using old school, 70s, damped and understated drums. Despite the fact this allows for dynamic, breathable, understated instrument tones and performances to match, they sound almost like a demo when played against anything modern.
Yeah most of the production I do is modern country and has the big drums that I supplement. All of that stuff is huge samples mixed in at least. Be fun to go in and really have to make what you have sound amazing. Hell, most of the time, I just replace the kick altogether. |
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Post by drbill on Sept 28, 2024 11:28:26 GMT -6
Listening to The Logical Song - THAT is a damn balanced mix. Punchy, smooth top, balanced extremely well, wide... Indeed. I like the kick, although I think it could be a touch louder in the mix, but yeah, killer mix. I think a lot has to do with the arrangement as well/ |
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Post by gwlee7 on Sept 28, 2024 16:07:08 GMT -6
The whole Crime of the Century album is one of my favorites. Supertramp was an amazingly cool band.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Sept 28, 2024 16:18:07 GMT -6
Sadly if that were released today....
No one would ever hear it!
Wouldn't get played ever...
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Post by rowmat on Sept 28, 2024 16:28:02 GMT -6
The whole Crime of the Century album is one of my favorites. Supertramp was an amazingly cool band. Yep ‘Crime of the Century’ definitely deserves a Top 10 listing. Ken Scott’s engineering was killer on this album. |
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Post by Dan on Sept 28, 2024 17:03:42 GMT -6
Listening to The Logical Song - THAT is a damn balanced mix. Punchy, smooth top, balanced extremely well, wide... Its easy on the body and spirit to listen to.
Unfortunately, those vintage, understated, non punchy drum tones don't relate or agree with modern production sense for many. A kick and snare that isn't hyper punchy sounds small and weak to the modern music maker. We have grown accustomed to it. Try to produce a song with old school, low production drums tones. It takes alot of discipline as they tend to sound 'low quality' by todays standards and the urge is to uplevel them.
As soon as we start with hyped modern drums, the instrumentation is paced to match. I find it exhausting listening to alot of modern music.
I have personal production 'rock oriented' songs, using old school, 70s, damped and understated drums. Despite the fact this allows for dynamic, breathable, understated instrument tones and performances to match, they sound almost like a demo when played against anything modern.
All these people want the modern sounding drums with the silly transient that eventually gets clipped off by a limiter or just the fixed point pcm file. That 70s recordings done to tape are generally cleaner than modern ones blows minds. I was at a country music concert recently and the enhanced kick just sounded so muddy and silly with the subbass. |
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Post by EmRR on Sept 28, 2024 21:23:16 GMT -6
Those Supertramp records were pretty mega-budget If I recall
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 29, 2024 13:17:49 GMT -6
Sadly if that were released today.... No one would ever hear it! Wouldn't get played ever... Yeah. Where would it get played? Is there even rock radio anymore? Is this even considered rock anymore? |
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