mrcel0
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Post by mrcel0 on Sept 20, 2024 13:39:09 GMT -6
A lot of producers in these times are heavily relying on clipping their beats to create a “high energy” sound and I find myself really liking the energy and fullness it can seem to add, but at the same time, I know this is very limiting to me in what I can do in the mix at the same time it’s limiting how loud it truly can be perceived. Also digital clipping tends to not be as pleasing as analogue clipping? It’s also pretty fatiguing, it saddens me because these producers who would usually send me clean beats I can mess up later have started to send me stuff that just keeps getting louder and louder.
So my question is, how can I attempt to save these mixes, without the trackouts or stems for these instrumentals? Is it futile? Would running them through any hardware help or just make things worse?
I’m starting to think I just have to roll with it, cause these are talented producers & it would cost me more money and probably be bothersome to ask them for a non clipping version of their instrumental every time.
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Post by Darren Boling on Sept 20, 2024 15:17:54 GMT -6
Check out Thimeo Stereo Tool, it has a module that helps restore dynamics (so FM stations can then slam it again). www.thimeo.com/stereo-tool/ Sometimes too you can use Declip in RX or even sometimes making stems via RipX or lalal.ai will save the day. In my experience it's a case by case basis. |
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mrcel0
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Post by mrcel0 on Sept 20, 2024 15:38:21 GMT -6
Check out Thimeo Stereo Tool, it has a module that helps restore dynamics (so FM stations can then slam it again). www.thimeo.com/stereo-tool/ Sometimes too you can use Declip in RX or even sometimes making stems via RipX or lalal.ai will save the day. In my experience it's a case by case basis. You’re actually saving my life right now lol thanks so much |
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Post by Darren Boling on Sept 20, 2024 16:02:25 GMT -6
You’re actually saving my life right now lol thanks so much Earlier in the year I did some remasters of 2000's era records, lots of L2 (L1 or even Vintage Warmer maybe?) abuse back then. Had to learn a lot of tricks to try to undo the damage. |
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Post by Dan on Sept 20, 2024 16:34:44 GMT -6
You’re actually saving my life right now lol thanks so much Earlier in the year I did some remasters of 2000's era records, lots of L2 (L1 or even Vintage Warmer maybe?) abuse back then. Had to learn a lot of tricks to try to undo the damage. L1 or L2 on everything era was a thing. It's impossible to truly fix. There's no transients and lots of metallic sheen. Vintage Warmer in multiband mode sounds a lot nicer. Especially Vintage Warmer 2 tweaked with FAT on in multiband but it was often shoved singleband on every single drum. Blockfish on every drum was also a thing but died with Intel Macs and the transition to 64-bit DAWs. |
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Post by poppaflavor on Sept 21, 2024 14:06:30 GMT -6
In my relatively naive opinion, what can't be restored is the general long-term dynamics. Except through stem fader management. Once it is a sausage, then the slow ups and down roller coaster in between rise and falls are gone.
An Elysia Nvelope or even a DBX118 can restore some peaks to those in the short-term, and my newly acquired Dolby 740 certainly can increase the ambiance in the acute short term for some low level signal, but nothing can restore the true loveliness of the vibe and wax and wane of the track once the original artists vision has been squashed. And if it's a sausage with a couple of pinched off tie-offs low levels where the peak falls, well then it's still not salvageable because that is a macro reduction in level across the story arc. Which is a flat story, which nobody wants to read or listen to. Or hear.
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Post by griffinpb on Sept 24, 2024 0:29:14 GMT -6
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