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Post by Bob Olhsson on Sept 21, 2024 14:29:28 GMT -6
Cal Harris, my mentor at Motown, started as an intern and later became an assistant at United Western, working with the Beach Boys, among others. He then took on the role of a first at Gold Star Studios, where he was involved in recording the basics for "Good Vibrations." In 1968, Cal taught me the technique of gradually increasing my mix to ensure that the balance remained consistent at any volume. During my visits to Hollywood from 1969 to 1975, it was common practice to monitor mixes at very low levels.
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Post by christophert on Sept 22, 2024 17:02:16 GMT -6
80db spl, constantly checking well above and below, since Bob O made the suggestion years ago, i set the volume very low and step outside the door to make sure i can hear all the important elements clearly, that has become a staple for me Off axis listening is a GREAT (and free) tool that we should all use. I love going out into the live room or even the restroom while a mix runs to see what I do and don't hear compared to being in the sweet spot. I'm also a fan of distracted listening, especially when at one of those "I'm not sure of ___" moments. I'll take my wireless keyboard, and go lie on the couch and check Twitter, or answer emails or play a game. After a little ear brake, I'll start the song and continue screwing around on my phone. If something needs addressing it will often stick out, even though I'm not 'listening' or mixing at that moment. 100% agree.
I'm also using ListenTo a lot lately, I stream the mix to my laptop, and I go to the kitchen and make coffee and food, and pretend it is not me mixing - but only when the mix is close. Also listen quiet on iLoud micros.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 24, 2024 12:50:50 GMT -6
Off axis listening is a GREAT (and free) tool that we should all use. I love going out into the live room or even the restroom while a mix runs to see what I do and don't hear compared to being in the sweet spot. I'm also a fan of distracted listening, especially when at one of those "I'm not sure of ___" moments. I'll take my wireless keyboard, and go lie on the couch and check Twitter, or answer emails or play a game. After a little ear brake, I'll start the song and continue screwing around on my phone. If something needs addressing it will often stick out, even though I'm not 'listening' or mixing at that moment. 100% agree.
I'm also using ListenTo a lot lately, I stream the mix to my laptop, and I go to the kitchen and make coffee and food, and pretend it is not me mixing - but only when the mix is close. Also listen quiet on iLoud micros.
ListenTo looks very useful. Do you use it with clients? Feels like it could be kind of a game changer if it works well. I imagine this could be a very fast way to check mixes in different spots as well (car mix, etc) without having to do bounces. |
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Post by EmRR on Sept 24, 2024 14:28:31 GMT -6
my 'C" weighted mix volume right now is 73dB. Bouncing between that and 1" speakers (yes, 1") at a lower volume.
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Post by christophert on Sept 24, 2024 15:58:30 GMT -6
100% agree.
I'm also using ListenTo a lot lately, I stream the mix to my laptop, and I go to the kitchen and make coffee and food, and pretend it is not me mixing - but only when the mix is close. Also listen quiet on iLoud micros.
ListenTo looks very useful. Do you use it with clients? Feels like it could be kind of a game changer if it works well. I imagine this could be a very fast way to check mixes in different spots as well (car mix, etc) without having to do bounces. Yes - I only use it for streaming mixes, also to artists laptops / phones if they are around during the mix. I do intend to use it more with clients real time mix streaming, and making adjustments live whilst the artist is on the phone / or Zoom. Thoroughly recommended awesome studio tool. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 24, 2024 16:08:28 GMT -6
ListenTo looks very useful. Do you use it with clients? Feels like it could be kind of a game changer if it works well. I imagine this could be a very fast way to check mixes in different spots as well (car mix, etc) without having to do bounces. Yes - I only use it for streaming mixes, also to artists laptops / phones if they are around during the mix. I do intend to use it more with clients real time mix streaming, and making adjustments live whilst the artist is on the phone / or Zoom. Thoroughly recommended awesome studio tool. Feels like it would really shine on the non-technical type of last minute stuff. The kind of "you know, it sounds great but I just really prefer the drums farther back." Those are the ones that drive me nuts cuz you end up with like 5 bounces on what is really just a matter of purely subjective taste. If this really works, it could save a lot of time if I could just go "ok, I'm gonna lower the snare.... say 'when'" |
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Post by christophert on Sept 24, 2024 16:15:14 GMT -6
Yes - I only use it for streaming mixes, also to artists laptops / phones if they are around during the mix. I do intend to use it more with clients real time mix streaming, and making adjustments live whilst the artist is on the phone / or Zoom. Thoroughly recommended awesome studio tool. Feels like it would really shine on the non-technical type of last minute stuff. The kind of "you know, it sounds great but I just really prefer the drums farther back." Those are the ones that drive me nuts cuz you end up with like 5 bounces on what is really just a matter of purely subjective taste. If this really works, it could save a lot of time if I could just go "ok, I'm gonna lower the snare.... say 'when'" Exactly. I would mix and find when listening on a laptop, maybe the snare or cymbals could be slightly adjusted. Now I'm streaming > this is so quick. The link stays up and running, all I need to do is mute / unmute my monitors and laptop speakers. My clients love it too, we have coffee and listen off the laptop in another room. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 24, 2024 16:17:26 GMT -6
Feels like it would really shine on the non-technical type of last minute stuff. The kind of "you know, it sounds great but I just really prefer the drums farther back." Those are the ones that drive me nuts cuz you end up with like 5 bounces on what is really just a matter of purely subjective taste. If this really works, it could save a lot of time if I could just go "ok, I'm gonna lower the snare.... say 'when'" Exactly. I would mix and find when listening on a laptop, maybe the snare or cymbals could be slightly adjusted. Now I'm streaming > this is so quick. The link stays up and running, all I need to do is mute / unmute my monitors and laptop speakers. My clients love it too, we have coffee and listen off the laptop in another room. SOLD!!! Haha. Question... the lite version includes 10 receiver licenses. When you fill those up can you kick people off and replace them with others or do you have to purchase more? The version features are oddly worded to me. |
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Post by christophert on Sept 24, 2024 16:54:15 GMT -6
Exactly. I would mix and find when listening on a laptop, maybe the snare or cymbals could be slightly adjusted. Now I'm streaming > this is so quick. The link stays up and running, all I need to do is mute / unmute my monitors and laptop speakers. My clients love it too, we have coffee and listen off the laptop in another room. SOLD!!! Haha. Question... the lite version includes 10 receiver licenses. When you fill those up can you kick people off and replace them with others or do you have to purchase more? The version features are oddly worded to me. Yes - I use the lite version |
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