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Post by popmann on Aug 8, 2014 10:51:20 GMT -6
If anyone has a DAT deck in the Nashville area they're willing to lend out, send me a PM. I'm cleaning house--ran across some of my old 16/48 DAT raw mixes...I have the material at 44.1 on the CD masters, but these are the raw 48khz masters I wouldn't mind running down a copy and killing the tapes once and for all.
I can make fairly short work of it...maybe need it for a couple days to not rush through it...shoot me a PM if you do.
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Post by Rock Kennedy on Aug 8, 2014 11:17:07 GMT -6
I have one but can't guarantee it would work. I got it at Goodwill really cheap because I had one important tape I needed to transfer. After I bought it, I couldn't find the tape. If you want to gamble your time and effort to pick up and return, give me a shout.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 8, 2014 13:22:39 GMT -6
Beware, I lost two DAT machines to sticky-shed and there are no more parts.
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Post by popmann on Aug 8, 2014 16:43:51 GMT -6
You mean shed from the tapes fucked the heads? That would suck...is there a test I can run on the tape? ie...expose it and rub it lightly with...X...? lint free white cloth?
It's funny...first thing I did was email Blackbird...and they said they didn't have a reliable DAT machine in house...yikes...they have 30 of EVERYTHING!
I'm in West Nash, Rock (fwiw)--where are you?...I'd be willing to drive to try it. But, I'll wait to see what Bob says about testing the tape. If there's a significant risk of messing up the machine, I'll file these in the trash. It's certainly no masterpieces...I'll feel glad that I transferred what I DID at 48khz (which was my fave stuff)....I was really looking to just archive "the rest" as files.
What say you, Bob....
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Post by formatcyes on Aug 8, 2014 16:48:21 GMT -6
I have one but I live in oz. If you have no luck you could post me the tape or pay for the dat to be shipped.
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Post by ericn on Aug 8, 2014 16:52:46 GMT -6
Part of what Bob is talking about is due to poor tape formulations, and the fact that most DAT machines that are still around were put away without a good cleaning ( most cases it was good riddance and the shelf was really a dumpster) That gunk has sat for at least 15 years and there is no Studer of DAT transports, and the fact that even new these thing were not reliable well they are what they are.
Look it might eat the tape it might not, if you don't put the tape in a machine you won't be able to hear the files, and next year the odds are higher the tape will fail!
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 8, 2014 18:07:14 GMT -6
I'm talking about bad tape. I couldn't get the machines fixed and just started renting the few times it came up. I'd get a throw-away machine to test the tapes with. I think CD players are next.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 18:45:25 GMT -6
I think CD players are next. I was going to go all harumph on that, then I thought about all the CD players I use. Hmm... None in the studio (I've got a BluRay reader that I use to rip any CDs or videos I buy--they're in it exactly once). As I mentally walk through the house, I can't think of a single room with a CD. I do have a few in a closet. Somewhere. Heck, I just bought a car and I don't even know if it's got a CD player. All I cared about was iPod and Bluetooth. Now I'm going to have to go out in the garage and look! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 8, 2014 21:35:13 GMT -6
Surely one of these pub houses have a DAT machine around...Or call one of the tape dup places...
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 9, 2014 5:50:32 GMT -6
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Post by popmann on Aug 9, 2014 8:56:52 GMT -6
Yeah, there are actually some up for sale HERE this morning. Related? Hmm. Anyway--that's the option if I care enough. I'm not sure I do. All I'm "losing" is whatever was lost in the sample rate conversion in 1998 or so when I could move them to CD. I don't think there's any actual original material on the tapes. When I saw them I literally thought this was gonna be an afternoon of babysitting a rental/loaner deck transferring...returning it and splicing them into individual files as time allowed...
In reading all the trouble people are having with DATs....hell, I figured they were in EVERY studio...there were new ones for sale when mine died in 98...I had no idea we'd have trouble sourcing a DAT this soon. Shit, how many labels have 1987-2000 mixes on DAT? Did they think ahead, or are we forever stuck with their crushed production CD masters? I'd read Sony developed DSD as an archival format...I still hold hope that we'll see this shit undone. I just put on a Corrs record from 2004...DR5. I like the material on that record...is it really THAT is as good as it will sound? Ever? You know it was a 96khz PTHD session....who's backing THAT up? Or are they? I digress.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 9, 2014 9:12:00 GMT -6
I'm tempted to say fuck DAT or what's up with DAT but that won't help. Well, maybe a chuckle or two. At least having some old DAT's better than having some great old stuff on minidisc.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 9, 2014 9:47:07 GMT -6
Just beware that this is the downside of digital technology.
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Post by Rock Kennedy on Aug 11, 2014 8:59:14 GMT -6
I am in Antioch, not far from the mall. If I could find and transfer the one DAT tape I have, you could use it without fear of tearing it up. Let me see if I can find it, although I have looked once. My household is not the most organized.
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Post by popmann on Aug 11, 2014 10:03:30 GMT -6
Cool. Drop me a PM if you find it. If I don't hear anything in say a week, I'll prolly just chuck the tapes. It's simply not a big priority. I have the material as 44.1 files...and no one but me will ever hear this stuff anyway.
Mainly, I use them as a reminder of how far I've come!
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Post by Ward on Aug 11, 2014 12:26:53 GMT -6
$49-$99 on eBay all day long. Just go buy an old used Panasonic SV3700 or 3900. As good as they got.
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Post by Rock Kennedy on Aug 14, 2014 16:05:16 GMT -6
Don't chuck your tapes, if I can't find my tape, in a week or so, come pick it up, try it and we'll hope it survives your transfer. If not oh well. It might already be dead, I have never used it.
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