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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on Aug 28, 2024 21:34:56 GMT -6
I have no experience with drum samples, but I’m interested in getting into making a few of my own samples of my drums for the purposes of supplementing my tracks with additional sounds from said samples. I do not want to totally replace my tracks with other stock samples. I’m just wanting to add or layer in another snare tone or kick tone alongside what I’ve already tracked. At the moment, I'm not looking for sample libraries, etc. Just my own drums and my own recordings.
With my limited understanding, it seems like Slate Trigger 2 will let me, for isntance, rip a snare hit out of one of my tracks, and then trigger that sound on a new track sidechained/keyed from the original snare track. For instance, I could have a super beefy snare hit that I sample into Trigger 2, and then key that up off of a piccolo snare track to layer in some beef.
Is this the correct general idea? If so, are there any alternatives to Trigger 2 that are maybe a bit more bare-bones? For what its worth, I've explored re-amping my snares using a guitar cab/power amp, and while that certianly works for certain things like getting some extra snare sizzle, its not exactly what I'm looking to do here. Thanks for any tips or ideas!
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Post by doubledog on Aug 28, 2024 21:44:01 GMT -6
I use Trigger 2 if I need to replace something that was recorded poorly, or sometimes just to enhance something. Some of the Slate samples are pretty good too. I suppose the poor mans version is to "tab to transient" and then paste a sample for every hit, but that usually is a lot of work. I only do this if I'm replacing one or two wonky hits.
Depending on the DAW you are using, you can convert audio tracks to MIDI and then trigger a drum plugin/app too (but it might be 100% accurate or automatic - so it may require some additional tweaking).
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Post by Dan on Aug 29, 2024 18:12:29 GMT -6
Apulsoft ApTrigga with the ableton interface
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Post by mcirish on Aug 29, 2024 18:29:30 GMT -6
I use Trigger 2 and a few others as well including the PA SPL Drumxchanger. When I do a session, I have the drummer do some hits at the end and I make samples from those. I'm not looking to change the sound. I just want the hits more consistent. I don't always do it but when needed, I will bring a bit of the sample in just to make the performance a little more polished. You do have to check phase though. I always manually line them up. If you don't, you can end up with very weak sounding hits when they are out of phase with the original parts.
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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on Aug 29, 2024 21:27:16 GMT -6
Thanks all! Appreciate the info. Since I'm just trying this out, I think the tab-to-transient method might actually be the best for me at the moment, as its free haha. After watching a few videos, it seems like the most straightforward option that I can get into immediately (at least in ProTools).
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Post by Ned Ward on Aug 29, 2024 21:41:25 GMT -6
Massey's DRT (Drum Replacement Trigger) has a free trial, works great, and is $100 if you decide you want to pull the trigger (couldn't resist). I did beta testing for him back when this was becoming an AAX plugin. Works well. www.masseyplugins.com/plugin/drt |
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Post by doubledog on Aug 29, 2024 22:07:30 GMT -6
Drumagog also used to be pretty cool but I have not used it in many years (since PT9 - yikes!) and not sure if they even keep it up to date anymore? I'd especially be weary if you are on a mac (since frequent updates seem to break all kids of plugins). One thing I really liked was the ability to create "GOGs", which were just samples, or bundles of samples at different velocity, etc. So you could sample your kit, put it into a "GOG" and then use it over and over. I suppose you can do the same with Trigger, but that seems more like single samples (where Trigger manipulates the velocity - which is not exactly the same thing). Anyway, seemed pretty cool at the time. I think I only went to Trigger because it was on sale and cheaper than the Drumagog upgrade at the time. And here we are...
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