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Post by geoff738 on Aug 6, 2024 18:52:25 GMT -6
This may be in my near future. Don’t know the model but my friend Stew wants to use it. Sigh.
So any tips and tricks appreciated. I am going to try and convince him to add least let me add cymbals after the fact. Probably SSD or Superior so still not real. But better.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Ward on Aug 6, 2024 18:55:50 GMT -6
drum machine? Oh you mean the sound of 'new country' now?
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Post by geoff738 on Aug 6, 2024 19:44:36 GMT -6
drum machine? Oh you mean the sound of 'new country' now? Well now that you mention it Stew does have some country leaning stuff. Not sure what he is bringing this time. And I had no idea drum machines were a thing in new country or anywhere really. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by bossanova on Aug 6, 2024 21:05:17 GMT -6
Sigma (RIP) used to run them through a Lexicon 224 room when they first came on the scene.
I use Reverberate Bricasti IRs (or something like Nimbus) to put everything in one room for some gel. Or one of the IK Studio verbs. The short verbs on CLA Drums are also surprisingly effective, especially for dry samples/hits.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Aug 7, 2024 8:48:43 GMT -6
We use drum machines primarily now. Fits our style of material. Mainly the TR-707 and Drumtraks, sometimes used together.
Almost always, I'm laying samples along with the various parts though and blending to taste to take them sonically to different places depending on the song.
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Post by doubledog on Aug 7, 2024 9:35:06 GMT -6
if all you have is a stereo drum track, I wouldn't recommend putting reverb across it - unless you really like that sort of thing. it means you get reverb on the whole kit (although what is a drum machine kit - kick, snare, maybe hihat or some percussion?) and you'll lose a lot of definition. Even on a parallel bus it might not be great. I (being a drummer) personally never put reverb on a kick drum unless it's an effect I'm going for. There are some tools out there that potentially separate the tracks for you - or if the person sending them to you has a way to do that even better. otherwise just search "plugin to separate drum tracks" - I came up with several options. Then you can at least have better control of the levels of each (and process them further with Trigger or SSD or SD whatever). Even if you don't use one of those tools you can potentially extract MIDI from the audio, but that will take more work to then separate the kick, snare, etc.
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Post by jaba on Aug 7, 2024 9:43:37 GMT -6
Sometimes it's best to not even pretend it's real drums.
Embrace it for what it is. Crunch it up a bit, lo-fi it.
No need to go overboard, but sometimes letting go of trying to make it sound "real" will result in something more interesting and musical.
Depends on the rest of the production though, maybe this approach would draw too much attention to it.
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Post by ericn on Aug 7, 2024 10:16:16 GMT -6
Drum machines are all about EQ and finding a reverb that works, this is true weather your trying to fake a kit or embrace the drum machine.
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Post by drbill on Aug 7, 2024 10:55:47 GMT -6
Is this a new thing now? I've been doing that (alongside real drums too) for 35 years since the first Linn came out. man...I'm getting old.....
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Post by lowlou on Aug 7, 2024 10:58:41 GMT -6
"Embrace the drum machine".
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Post by svart on Aug 7, 2024 11:22:52 GMT -6
I'd probably redo it in MIDI and use a drum sequencing program. They sound way better these days.
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Post by antbar on Aug 7, 2024 13:40:51 GMT -6
I love working with drum machines, just as I love working with drums/drummers. I've got a few classic drum boxes and a few modern toys, too.
Just jump in and see what works. It's music we're here for and machines have been a part of music making for rather a long time. You never know if the machine might end up being one of the hooks of a song. Prince, anybody?
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Post by drumsound on Aug 7, 2024 21:43:01 GMT -6
Sigma (RIP) used to run them through a Lexicon 224 room when they first came on the scene. I use Reverberate Bricasti IRs (or something like Nimbus) to put everything in one room for some gel. Or one of the IK Studio verbs. The short verbs on CLA Drums are also surprisingly effective, especially for dry samples/hits. Most drum machines have reverb on the samples. |
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Post by chessparov on Aug 8, 2024 9:19:18 GMT -6
"Embrace the drum machine". What do you call a Drum Machine without a power cord? Ohmless. What was the first Drum Machine that The Beatles used? I forget the exact model but it was the. The. The. (Building suspense  ) The one after 909.  Chris |
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Post by Dan on Aug 8, 2024 9:37:03 GMT -6
Distort it. Get out Vintage Warmer, Decapitator, and now Vulf and RC-20 like every lo-fi producer.
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Post by notneeson on Aug 8, 2024 12:04:48 GMT -6
I had a little jam/improv session with a friend last night playing drums along to an old Rhythm Ace through a combo amp. Super cool!
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Post by moeses on Aug 8, 2024 12:33:34 GMT -6
Decapitator, Neold plugins, dbx 560(or a dbx plugin) and replika xt are my best friends
Like someone else mentioned
Layering drum samples with the drum machine sounds...that said, something about those dbx compressors that just work with a drum machine sound
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Post by antbar on Aug 8, 2024 13:47:47 GMT -6
I ran my Drumtraks into a Moog Grandmother synth last night, with the GM's spring reverb at around 90% wet. The synth itself was filtering the drum machine already, creating a murky tone. The reverb really transformed it into a fantastic mystery puddle. The beat was still strong, but the source was obscured.
My fav drum box has to be the Digitakt. I've sampled most of the drummers I work with and Digitakt does something kinda magical with those samples, sprinkling a nice dirty fairy dust on things...
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