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Post by sparkey on Aug 6, 2024 13:36:10 GMT -6
I have some good mics like a heiserman 47 tube and soyuz bomblet. I use a Avedis MA5. I was considering adding a Redd 47 mic to my collection, or should i get a good tube mic pre like the redd 47 or Hazelrigg VLC mic pre?
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 6, 2024 14:10:37 GMT -6
I like having the pre's because you can put any mic you want in front of them. You might be able to save some $ this way if you r a diy guy? I bought 3 of the Dizengoff D4's for relatively cheap and went through them with the original redd 47 schemo to modify to my desire, it's virtually identical, I removed the dc blocking caps and phantom power, beefed up the ps, put some nos parts in strategic places along with some NOS ef86's and i couldn't be happier with them, did the same on a Da2 with a NOS RCA 1620 pentode tube with the plate terminal on top, 4 classic sounding pre's for less than the price of a single original
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Post by ironinthepath on Aug 6, 2024 18:48:51 GMT -6
The Chandler Redd mic has a fan base and I certainly wouldn’t mind adding one to my collection at some point, but the built in pre limits flexibility which can be both bad and good as there’s one less detail to distract from the music when recording.
In addition to the Heiserman H47t mic, I do own the Chandler Redd.47 preamp and like it, find it has features to alter its sonic impact on the chain (can use output knob along with gain setting for more or less clean signal). It’s also much less expensive (especially used) compared to the redd mic and I think it has the ability to take standard phantom powered condenser mics into the territory of the sound of a tube mic: nice harmonic content. I even like TLM102 through it. The high pass filter is also useful.
I doubt you can go wrong either way, but buying the pre (especially used) is a lower financial commitment, probably relatively easy to sell.
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Post by aremos on Aug 6, 2024 22:51:51 GMT -6
The mic's name doesn't have a "47" in it & sounds nothing close to a 47 - which is a good thing.
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Post by paulcheeba on Aug 7, 2024 5:07:41 GMT -6
I have a pair and they’re terrific on everything.
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Post by nick8801 on Aug 7, 2024 7:06:17 GMT -6
I have the pre and couldn’t be happier with it. Does cool things to all my mics, plus the di is the best I’ve ever used.
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Post by teejay on Aug 7, 2024 10:10:45 GMT -6
Flexibility can be viewed in different ways. The preamp has a lot of features, which will obviously work across your mics. The mic has its own unique sound with the platinum capsule married directly to the preamp circuitry, as well as the Drive, Low-Contour, and Output Control features. No, you cannot leverage the REDD's "preamp" for other mics. You can, however use the mic standalone, dial down the gain to +4 and use external preamps, and/or run it directly into any other external hardware such as a compressor or EQ.
Both the preamp and the mic are stellar.
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 8, 2024 0:05:32 GMT -6
the redd mic is polar opposite of a 47. very open top end leaning towards a more modern sound. very detialed works really well on a lots of sources.although for my needs not used much on more sibilant singers.not as forgiving as a 47 or 67 might be.
the pre amps are fantastic.especially love them as DI's and drum overheads or room mics.sound BIG.
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Post by crillemannen on Aug 8, 2024 3:40:13 GMT -6
I concur with previous posters.
The redd.47 is the complete opposite of a U47. I liked it when I demoed it. Very bright but with nice lowmids. I want one!
If you check out my YouTube channel you'll find several tube preamp episodes, one with the redd.47 Vs D.W fearn and Neve. That will give you a good indication on what they would sound like.
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Post by alvyn991 on Aug 9, 2024 9:07:38 GMT -6
I have some good mics like a heiserman 47 tube and soyuz bomblet. I use a Avedis MA5. I was considering adding a Redd 47 mic to my collection, or should i get a good tube mic pre like the redd 47 or Hazelrigg VLC mic pre? Nice gear! The Heiserman 47 and Soyuz Bomblet are both great mics. Considering a Redd 47 mic or a good tube mic pre like the Redd 47 or Hazelrigg VLC? That's a tough choice! If you want more mic options, the Redd 47 could be a great addition. But if you want to elevate your entire mic collection, a good tube mic pre could make a bigger impact. What's your priority?
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Post by haysonics on Aug 20, 2024 20:13:55 GMT -6
I like having the pre's because you can put any mic you want in front of them. You might be able to save some $ this way if you r a diy guy? I bought 3 of the Dizengoff D4's for relatively cheap and went through them with the original redd 47 schemo to modify to my desire, it's virtually identical, I removed the dc blocking caps and phantom power, beefed up the ps, put some nos parts in strategic places along with some NOS ef86's and i couldn't be happier with them, did the same on a Da2 with a NOS RCA 1620 pentode tube with the plate terminal on top, 4 classic sounding pre's for less than the price of a single original Hoping you may be able to help. I wish to replace the output transformer in my DA2 as its lacking low end. My D4 uses the same output transformer but has good low end so it must be a mismatch between the DA2 circuit and the output transformer. This was acknowledged by Dizengoff and they used a different transformer for a small run of DA2 a few years later. But there was no mention of transformer specs either by them or anywhere on the net. Do you know what type of output transformer I should select for more low end ?
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Post by sean on Aug 20, 2024 20:34:28 GMT -6
The REDD mic is a very bright/detailed microphone. Probably the brightest one I own. But, it’s a good bright. It probably has more in common with a C800G than U47 sonically (to my ear)
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 20, 2024 23:26:17 GMT -6
I like having the pre's because you can put any mic you want in front of them. You might be able to save some $ this way if you r a diy guy? I bought 3 of the Dizengoff D4's for relatively cheap and went through them with the original redd 47 schemo to modify to my desire, it's virtually identical, I removed the dc blocking caps and phantom power, beefed up the ps, put some nos parts in strategic places along with some NOS ef86's and i couldn't be happier with them, did the same on a Da2 with a NOS RCA 1620 pentode tube with the plate terminal on top, 4 classic sounding pre's for less than the price of a single original Hoping you may be able to help. I wish to replace the output transformer in my DA2 as its lacking low end. My D4 uses the same output transformer but has good low end so it must be a mismatch between the DA2 circuit and the output transformer. This was acknowledged by Dizengoff and they used a different transformer for a small run of DA2 a few years later. But there was no mention of transformer specs either by them or anywhere on the net. Do you know what type of output transformer I should select for more low end ? I wish I could tell you, I didn’t change the transformers on any of them, here is the schemo for the rca ba2c which I believe the Diezengoff was based on
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Post by haysonics on Aug 21, 2024 4:03:36 GMT -6
Hoping you may be able to help. I wish to replace the output transformer in my DA2 as its lacking low end. My D4 uses the same output transformer but has good low end so it must be a mismatch between the DA2 circuit and the output transformer. This was acknowledged by Dizengoff and they used a different transformer for a small run of DA2 a few years later. But there was no mention of transformer specs either by them or anywhere on the net. Do you know what type of output transformer I should select for more low end ? I wish I could tell you, I didn’t change the transformers on any of them, here is the schemo for the rca ba2c which I believe the Diezengoff was based on View AttachmentThanks Tony ! I think i will try subbing in a UTM 3590 and hear how that goes. Now back to your regular programming (0:
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Post by haysonics on Aug 21, 2024 4:19:41 GMT -6
I have some good mics like a heiserman 47 tube and soyuz bomblet. I use a Avedis MA5. I was considering adding a Redd 47 mic to my collection, or should i get a good tube mic pre like the redd 47 or Hazelrigg VLC mic pre? If your Heiserman 47 has his HK47 capsule a Redd.47 pre would add even more upper mid response, but would work well if you have his M7 as that has less of a boost in the upper mids.
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Post by sparkey on Aug 22, 2024 14:26:09 GMT -6
I have some good mics like a heiserman 47 tube and soyuz bomblet. I use a Avedis MA5. I was considering adding a Redd 47 mic to my collection, or should i get a good tube mic pre like the redd 47 or Hazelrigg VLC mic pre? If your Heiserman 47 has his HK47 capsule a Redd.47 pre would add even more upper mid response, but would work well if you have his M7 as that has less of a boost in the upper mids. Yes I have the HK47 capsule on my heiserman. I think the redd mic would be best, get different options,
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