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Post by unit7 on Aug 4, 2014 16:16:44 GMT -6
I put one of my Avalon 737s up for sale on a gear market here in Sweden. As mentioned in another thread I'm looking at financing a Retro Powerstrip. But today someone offered a trade for a vintage AKG BX15 spring reverb in mint condition. I've worked very little with real spring reverbs. Really enjoy some of the IRs in Altiverb and also the PSP spring (also a plugin). But I'm starting to think I'd enjoy and use this more than a Powerstrip.
Anyone of you have any experience of the BX15?
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Post by ericn on Aug 4, 2014 17:49:43 GMT -6
OK I really don't get the romance with spring reverbs. Yeah they are Analog, but it's the one thing where I find digital just sounds better Now a plate is another matter, but If I have to have a real spring verb Ill find away to use the tank in a guitar amp!
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Post by unit7 on Aug 5, 2014 2:10:04 GMT -6
OK I really don't get the romance with spring reverbs. Yeah they are Analog, but it's the one thing where I find digital just sounds better Now a plate is another matter, but If I have to have a real spring verb Ill find away to use the tank in a guitar amp! I'm not that crazy for spring reverbs either. But on some things when it's just right, it's sooo cool. Before my vacation I did a one day mix session of a very downscale homebrewn jazz project (vocal, ac bass and piano) recorded in the home of the pianist. They didn't want it to sound entirely 'documentery' so a little reverb was wished for. I tried a few different ones, wooden rooms, plates (Altiverb and Bricasti), then looked for different domestic rooms to bring out that quality of the recording. Nothing did it for me until I loaded that tube spring reverb in Altiverb with three IRs (dark/flat/bright) I believe I chose the dark. Did just the right thing, added a little sweetness without sounding too polished for the overall vibe. Another aspect of getting a BX15 is that it'd keep it's value, probably even gain some. Also agree that a real plate is another level. Then, next on the scale is a real chamber!..  Well, if I build my own place, it'll have both! |
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Post by Ward on Aug 5, 2014 11:31:54 GMT -6
Spring reverbs have always, do now and always will sound like CRAP on everything but certain Fender, Vox and DRZ amps.
Digital reverb is a godsend compared to that crap. Now, maybe you can find a good old EMT plate but springs? O Mon Dieu Seigneur Doux Jésus!
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Post by unit7 on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:35 GMT -6
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Post by unit7 on Aug 5, 2014 13:46:52 GMT -6
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Post by winetree on Aug 5, 2014 13:49:43 GMT -6
I have a BX-15 and a Mic mix Master room "Super C" twin tank reverb unit.
The Super C was the first studio reverb unit I ever bought.
They were used on a lot of records back in the day.
They don't get used today as much as they use to,
but when used properly, they do have a sound, almost plate like, and a place in todays music.
I still keep them around.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 5, 2014 16:11:24 GMT -6
I think spring verbs got used all over the Amy Winehouse stuff?
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Post by nobtwiddler on Aug 5, 2014 18:24:28 GMT -6
Nothing sounds or sits in a mix (other then a plate) like a spring reverb.
I have 4, use them all the time. Usually with different pre delays in front of each one.
They have a thing, if it's not for you then cool, but there has never been, at least to my knowledge a digital emulation that recreates what a great spring reverb or a plate can do....
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 5, 2014 22:09:21 GMT -6
The AKG can be so smooth... it's not boingy like most people think of when they think of springs.
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Post by levon on Aug 5, 2014 23:36:22 GMT -6
Beautiful! Been wanting of these for a long time... |
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Post by donr on Aug 5, 2014 23:43:10 GMT -6
My first 'verb was an Orban stereo spring. One side sounded different than the other, but it was stylin' for its day in a TEAC 1/4" studio.
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Post by unit7 on Aug 6, 2014 2:08:59 GMT -6
Thanks for the input folks! A small majority pro spring reverb then...
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 6, 2014 8:24:54 GMT -6
Several times in recent years I've asked mix guys in Nashville… "what's that cool verb on the vocal (or drums)" and it was the AKG. If I had room for it, I'd get one bc it's unlike anything else.
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Post by unit7 on Aug 6, 2014 8:43:18 GMT -6
Several times in recent years I've asked mix guys in Nashville… "what's that cool verb on the vocal (or drums)" and it was the AKG. If I had room for it, I'd get one bc it's unlike anything else. Cool! Guess you're just kind to me, not telling they used the bigger BX 20 or 25, right?  |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 6, 2014 8:56:09 GMT -6
I was unfamiliar with this box, but it sounds pretty cool in this video. Could be a cool vibe piece for your studio. Good luck. |
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 6, 2014 19:52:38 GMT -6
Several times in recent years I've asked mix guys in Nashville… "what's that cool verb on the vocal (or drums)" and it was the AKG. If I had room for it, I'd get one bc it's unlike anything else. Cool! Guess you're just kind to me, not telling they used the bigger BX 20 or 25, right? Well, I'm pretty sure they were using the bigger one. Sorry :-) |
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Post by gouge on Aug 6, 2014 20:06:53 GMT -6
I wish you guys would get back to talking about how much spring reverbs suck. hint hint.
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 6, 2014 21:45:30 GMT -6
I wish you guys would get back to talking about how much spring reverbs suck. hint hint. LOL… while we're talking about whacky reverbs… how about the URSA Major Space Station??!! That thing is dirty… Mmmm… |
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Post by gouge on Aug 6, 2014 21:56:57 GMT -6
I've got a friend who owns one but not used it myself. he bought it for a few hundred dollars a few years back. seems to sell for around $1000 these days. he's pretty happy bought that.
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 7, 2014 9:26:18 GMT -6
I got the plugin few years back pretty cheap… great plug.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 7, 2014 20:57:31 GMT -6
I've been playing with the UAD RE201 with just the spring verb on stuff...LOVE it...
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 8, 2014 13:20:51 GMT -6
I was seriously unimpressed by the BX 20 so I never bothered checking any more out.
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 8, 2014 13:34:33 GMT -6
Johnkenn… do u remember which one Reid Shippen has? I think it's the BX20… he played me some mixes for Lucie Silvas that he used it on. Sounded great on her vocal.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 8, 2014 14:17:23 GMT -6
I don't. I would imagine he has one of each.
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Well, if I build my own place, it'll have both!
