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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 14:53:01 GMT -6
I need a computer for video streaming.
Do I build a rack mount PC/Hakintosh: i7 4.0, 16G Ram, 480G SSD plus media drives?
Do I buy a used Mac Pro (silver)?
I need PCIe slots and to rack mount it.
Any thoughts for you fellow geeks?
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Post by unit7 on Aug 4, 2014 15:30:36 GMT -6
I'm upgrading to HDX. Need PCI too. Thought TB->PCI chassi was a good idea to be compatible with any computer as long as TB is around. Still think so, but then I stumbled on a cheap 2010 Mac Pro. My plan otherwise was to get the current Mac Mini Server model and max it out w two 1Tb SSDs and 16Gb RAM.
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Post by ericn on Aug 4, 2014 18:11:35 GMT -6
Here is what I did pulled the 5150s out of my first generation Macpro 2.66 put in a pair of X5360 3.0 8 cores that I paid 160 on ebay for. Updated the firmware and I have first gen 8 core that on Geekbench holds its own with any 8 core with slots!
The one thing I will say is find the longest allen wrenches you can find to remove the heatsinks!
Now when you consider the fact that first gen 2.0 sell for $200 not a bad investment other than no support beyond OS10.75 and max of 16Gb ram Offical but they seam to support 32!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 20:50:40 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I am a mac guy these days, for sure. Due to the priority on this box, I went ahead and ordered the parts to build in a server chassis for rack mounting. It all specs out as useable for "Hackintosh". I think I will give this a whirl.
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Post by ericn on Aug 4, 2014 20:55:21 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I am a mac guy these days, for sure. Due to the priority on this box, I went ahead and ordered the parts to build in a server chassis for rack mounting. It all specs out as useable for "Hackintosh". I think I will give this a whirl. Good luck, Thought about it more than once, I guess I have this stupid fear at some point Apples going to decide they don't want Hackintosh anymore and do something to lock us out. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 21:58:12 GMT -6
Thanks. Hopefully not.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 6, 2014 8:13:26 GMT -6
Get a 2009 nehalem, or newer, they are relatively cheap, and can be cheaply modded to the most powerful mac available by current 2014 standards. If ur interested in the mod, let me know and I'll dig up the link.
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Post by ElGato on Aug 28, 2014 8:33:32 GMT -6
I built a Hackintosh and I'm pretty impressed with it. It was my first computer build but it was fun. Some troubleshooting at first but the forums provided good help. I Just followed the instructions for parts and software installation on TonyMacx86. Lots of different options.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 28, 2014 9:45:56 GMT -6
I built a Hackintosh and I'm pretty impressed with it. It was my first computer build but it was fun. Some troubleshooting at first but the forums provided good help. I Just followed the instructions for parts and software installation on TonyMacx86. Lots of different options. Cool, how much $ did it cost? and what are the specs? |
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Post by ElGato on Aug 28, 2014 10:01:50 GMT -6
At the time, it was around 1000€.
MB: ud5h v1.1
i7 3770k
hd4000
120ssd
1tb hdd
1tb external hdd
16gb gskill ripjaws
Fractal Define R4 Soundproof case.
Enough for me and my audio needs as I only use it for audio. Well, I also did some video editing and it worked flawlessly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 12:35:44 GMT -6
Awesome. I went windows after all. The reason is that I grabbed a Z97 Asus board and Tony Mac hasn't conquered that one yet. Argh.
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Post by ElGato on Aug 28, 2014 14:14:44 GMT -6
Good choice. I will never pay for a prebuilt computer again unless it's a bargain. You can save some good buck by looking for parts deals and assembling them yourself.
edit: even more if we're talking macs.
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Post by Koln on Aug 28, 2014 19:45:41 GMT -6
ElGato : 1000 euros for a home built PC / unsupported Hack.
And you think you saved money compared to a real Mac?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 20:41:38 GMT -6
Yes. About 1500 USD and it smokes most out there and has no limiting issues. SSD hard drive, 2 hot swap drives, massive graphics, 2.25T storage, 4GIG processor.
Did well
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Post by ElGato on Aug 29, 2014 18:04:28 GMT -6
ElGato : 1000 euros for a home built PC / unsupported Hack. And you think you saved money compared to a real Mac? I really do. I did my research at the time and a real one with those specs was way more expensive over here. More than twice the price. Don't know how much is a Mac in Montreal but here those are quite expensive here. I had the time, limited budget and I'm no pro so I could "experiment" a little. Yes, I got no Apple support but the price seems to worth it as I've had zero issues up to now (a year and a half later) and it's stable as an original one. I guess I was lucky but I looked up for reliable hackintosh models. And the support is not that great over here, anyway. Even the prebuilt pc's with similar specs (more gaming oriented) were a bit more expensive than mine. I also considered installing windows but the (legal, upgradable and supported) Mountain Lion license was like 50€ and the Windows 8 around 200€ so I went just OSX as I first intended. |
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Post by Koln on Aug 29, 2014 19:53:49 GMT -6
Have you thought about a MacMini Server? Those are cheap to buy and very good computers. Maybe not as much processing power as your home build PC though.
I've got one and use it to mix 5.1 live shows. The little mini provides 2 hours long (and more) 5.1 and stereo mixing at the same time (same mix session-never 2 different mixes) while playing video on the 37" screen from the HDMI output. And that's with only 4Gb of ram. So many smaller post rooms and songwriters are running MMS's now.
I seriously think i'd loose time and money building a Hack. Building computer isn't a passtime for me.
Good luck with yours.
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Post by svart on Aug 29, 2014 21:39:31 GMT -6
Those Nehelem Macs were nothing more than OEM'd Xeon servers utilizing Tyan or Gigabyte built motherboards.. Ain't nothing special in those things that requires spending extra money. Just build a normal server and slap OSX on it and go on a trip to the Caribbean for a week on the money you saved.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 7:55:01 GMT -6
The last 2 machines we got built by the hardware suppliers.
They take around 100€ for custom builds based on preconfigured PC workstations.
We found out that the daily hardware prices change heavily sometimes due to dollar prices, the market etc..
Quite a few good and reliable suppliers have this service with automatic compatibility check of the components around here in germany, and the builds had very good quality. I built computers since 1995, partly for a living, but if you click together a machine that is more than 2000 Euros on hardware cost, it is very tempting to spend 5% on the build and test and spare a rare free afternoon on the weekend.
Tip No.1: SSDs speed up your workflow on new machines most!
What should never be underrated:
Buy a great silent CPU cooler e.g. Scythe Mugen4 with extra fan on the opposite site (runs even more silent), a good silent 80+ certified PSU e.g. BeQuiet, that is overdimensioned and a very good silent case (e.g. Nanoxia Deep Silence series or similar). You can even upgrade the case fans to the latest greatest silent fans.
We spend much more on this these days because it is so rewarding if your machine runs cool an silent. Silent = unnoticable.
And nothing is more annoying than your cheap failing PSU killing your board and (worst case) expensive components connected to it (like hard drives).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 8:34:05 GMT -6
Good post
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 30, 2014 8:41:55 GMT -6
I looked at buying/building a hackintosh, the lack of support was a little scary, I ended up with a
2009 Nahleham Mac Pro(current 5,1 firmware)
12 core 2.66
120 SSD/2-500gig
16 gig ram.. Blah bla
geek benches around 25000!
its as good as it gets and totally stable, and the build quality makes pc look like junk, I paid a around $2,300 or so
a lot of the hackintosh dudes are gobbling up the 2009 macpros, they are easily upgraded to state of the art performance specs
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