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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 13, 2024 11:05:23 GMT -6
I needed another B3 like a hole in my head...but I couldn't stand it. I would suggest reading, though, because I bought Session Organ without realizing you need EZKeys 2...sigh. So, $190 later...
I know with every B3 model, I say the new one's the best one...Well, I don't know if this is the best one, but I can see me using this more than the others. At least to get playing down. I love, love, love the idea of being able to chart the song and then have a real player playing real sounding parts following the chart. That's gonna save me tooooons of time. There's also a "distance" feature that sounds like you're moving the B3 to the back of the room. Very cool. Really excited to use this.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 13, 2024 12:50:52 GMT -6
Shh... Along with Drums and Slide Guitar (RIP Skydog)... B3 is among my usual fave 3 Instruments. Certainly Live.  We have two Primo B3/Leslie setups in Laguna BTW. At Mozambique and Skyloft. Steve Wood (Honk) and Albert Margolis (formerly Meters) are two of its best players around Town. Chris |
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Post by aremos on Jul 13, 2024 14:35:06 GMT -6
Any comparison to the IK B3, AcousticSamples B5 or GG Blue? After owning/using the IK for a year, I'm pretty much settled on it. (Also have the Arturia B3 & AIR B33.)
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Post by damoongo on Jul 13, 2024 19:59:17 GMT -6
You guys don't actually use these VI's / toys do you? LOL. Get a real B3 or A100! You're grown ass men! SMH
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 13, 2024 20:18:48 GMT -6
You guys don't actually use these VI's / toys do you? LOL. Get a real B3 or A100! You're grown ass men! SMH Already have enough sleeper sofas |
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Post by damoongo on Jul 13, 2024 20:36:43 GMT -6
You guys don't actually use these VI's / toys do you? LOL. Get a real B3 or A100! You're grown ass men! SMH Already have enough sleeper sofas You'll need even more beds for all the bands wanting to hole up for a couple weeks to make records on real instruments. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 13, 2024 22:16:17 GMT -6
Well, I’m definitely not buying real shit now.
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Post by doubledog on Jul 14, 2024 8:24:23 GMT -6
I seem to recall being able to use the Air B33 on an audio track too (even though it's an "instrument" plugin. I think if you open the "back panel" and disable the organ, you can use the cabinet - aka Leslie - on a guitar track or whatever. And maybe overdrive the "amp" part too. Been a few minutes since I tried it.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 14, 2024 8:33:58 GMT -6
Well, I’m definitely not buying real shit now. Hey! Quit being funnier than me.  LOL! |
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Post by ragan on Jul 14, 2024 8:58:42 GMT -6
Already have enough sleeper sofas You'll need even more beds for all the bands wanting to hole up for a couple weeks to make records on real instruments.  |
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Post by phantom on Jul 14, 2024 10:41:18 GMT -6
I only have the UAD Hammond. Have you compared against that?
I do like the usability of Ezkeys.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 14, 2024 12:24:42 GMT -6
I only have the UAD Hammond. Have you compared against that? I do like the usability of Ezkeys. I’ll put some samples up |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 14, 2024 14:04:34 GMT -6
Just listening, it sounds more realistic to me. But a side by side is needed. I’ll probably end up using this more - especially if I can chart it, play something rudimentary and then have it pick out better playing for me…and the fact you can twist a knob and make it more and less complicated. That’s really huge at least for me.
I can play the piano, but not like a professional player…so I’m hoping this will work as well as I think it can.
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Post by damoongo on Jul 14, 2024 19:09:49 GMT -6
Just listening, it sounds more realistic to me. But a side by side is needed. I’ll probably end up using this more - especially if I can chart it, play something rudimentary and then have it pick out better playing for me…and the fact you can twist a knob and make it more and less complicated. That’s really huge at least for me. I can play the piano, but not like a professional player…so I’m hoping this will work as well as I think it can. You know what sounds even more realistic? 😉 Also, this ain’t too far from just entering a prompt…. Slippery slope. I know I’m kind of being a dick here. But I’m also kind of serious. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 14, 2024 20:01:45 GMT -6
Just listening, it sounds more realistic to me. But a side by side is needed. I’ll probably end up using this more - especially if I can chart it, play something rudimentary and then have it pick out better playing for me…and the fact you can twist a knob and make it more and less complicated. That’s really huge at least for me. I can play the piano, but not like a professional player…so I’m hoping this will work as well as I think it can. You know what sounds even more realistic? 😉 Also, this ain’t too far from just entering a prompt…. Slippery slope. I know I’m kind of being a dick here. But I’m also kind of serious. I mean - seriously, the list of reasons not to aren’t hard to deduce. Money, physical space, maintenance to name a few. I’m not really tracking Blind Faith anytime soon, so they’re kinda just in the background. |
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Post by phantom on Jul 14, 2024 21:31:50 GMT -6
Just listening, it sounds more realistic to me. But a side by side is needed. I’ll probably end up using this more - especially if I can chart it, play something rudimentary and then have it pick out better playing for me…and the fact you can twist a knob and make it more and less complicated. That’s really huge at least for me. I can play the piano, but not like a professional player…so I’m hoping this will work as well as I think it can. You know what sounds even more realistic? 😉 Also, this ain’t too far from just entering a prompt…. Slippery slope. I know I’m kind of being a dick here. But I’m also kind of serious. So stop being a dick. I fully believe that we're at one point that if it's not your main instrument, if it's not essential to the majority of tracks you're recording, a VI of these instruments will be more than enough. |
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Post by damoongo on Jul 14, 2024 22:16:49 GMT -6
You know what sounds even more realistic? 😉 Also, this ain’t too far from just entering a prompt…. Slippery slope. I know I’m kind of being a dick here. But I’m also kind of serious. So stop being a dick. I fully believe that we're at one point that if it's not your main instrument, if it's not essential to the majority of tracks you're recording, a VI of these instruments will be more than enough. "more than enough" for what? Your soul? Why are we using *good enough* as a target for our art? Ai can do it *good enough*. |
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Post by damoongo on Jul 14, 2024 22:25:20 GMT -6
You know what sounds even more realistic? 😉 Also, this ain’t too far from just entering a prompt…. Slippery slope. I know I’m kind of being a dick here. But I’m also kind of serious. I mean - seriously, the list of reasons not to aren’t hard to deduce. Money, physical space, maintenance to name a few. I’m not really tracking Blind Faith anytime soon, so they’re kinda just in the background. Of all the instruments in the world to maintain, B3's / A100's are some of the most forgiving. Add a tablespoon of oil every year. Done. It's insane that most of them are still purring along just fine at age 60-70 (production run started in 1954 I think). They are relatively inexpensive, too. $2000 maybe? How many computers with incompatible OS's and card slots will you have gone through in 70 years to keep your VI's running? But they are heavy, I'll give you that... |
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Post by ragan on Jul 14, 2024 22:40:42 GMT -6
It’s just kind of weird to be so (seemingly) fixated on someone else buying an instrument that you like.
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Post by damoongo on Jul 14, 2024 22:54:04 GMT -6
It’s just kind of weird to be so (seemingly) fixated on someone else buying an instrument that you like. It’s not just organs. It’s not even just instruments. It’s everything. I mean the site is called “Real Gear” right? Have we lost our way? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 14, 2024 23:02:57 GMT -6
I named it on a lark 11 years ago…it would be different now most likely. Anyway, Real Gear was never intended to mean “more gear.” It kinda meant how do you find the gear that you can really trust.
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Post by damoongo on Jul 14, 2024 23:29:58 GMT -6
I named it on a lark 11 years ago…it would be different now most likely. Anyway, Real Gear was never intended to mean “more gear.” It kinda meant how do you find the gear that you can really trust. I don’t advocate for “more gear”. I like less gear, but I like it “real”. But if fake instruments are now “real gear” then I should go read some Kafka. But I do love this forum and appreciate the wide range of opinions and perspectives, so I’ll chill and go play some drums…. ✌️ |
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Post by phantom on Jul 15, 2024 6:40:22 GMT -6
So stop being a dick. I fully believe that we're at one point that if it's not your main instrument, if it's not essential to the majority of tracks you're recording, a VI of these instruments will be more than enough. "more than enough" for what? Your soul? Why are we using *good enough* as a target for our art? Ai can do it *good enough*. . So stupid to compare VIs to AI. We really are at a point in Virtual Instruments that they can be used in any production without feeling fake or weird. Well, they are used in many many productions. Even orchestral songs that ends in big tv shows are using VIs. Musicians are also touring with their Nords or whatever other digital keyboard. Good enough is not about being mediocre, it's about knowing that it's a tool that will allow you to make your art. |
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Post by damoongo on Jul 15, 2024 8:31:24 GMT -6
. So stupid to compare VIs to AI.[/quote] When John said “I can chart it, play something rudimentary and then have it pick out better playing for me…and the fact you can twist a knob and make it more and less complicated.” I had to bring up ai. Sorry you got butt hurt enough to call me stupid. |
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Post by phantom on Jul 15, 2024 8:50:46 GMT -6
. So stupid to compare VIs to AI. When John said “I can chart it, play something rudimentary and then have it pick out better playing for me…and the fact you can twist a knob and make it more and less complicated.” I had to bring up ai. Sorry you got butt hurt enough to call me stupid.[/quote] Still, it's not AI by any means. You had many stupid opinions on this thread, but this one tops it all. |
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