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Post by Omicron9 on Jun 19, 2024 17:16:03 GMT -6
Greetings.
I'm looking at a potential new studio space that is in very close proximity to a cell tower. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation?
Many thanks in advance,
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Post by svart on Jun 19, 2024 17:29:47 GMT -6
Greetings. I'm looking at a potential new studio space that is in very close proximity to a cell tower. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation? Many thanks in advance, -09 Yes. How close are we talking? Cells work in the 600M-800MHz or 2G-2.4G ranges. Typically in the 3-100W total power range with single channels being around 10W. They also radiate outwards, so the worst place for cell reception is actually under the tower. If the tower is on top of the building then you're actually not getting much radiation from the tower. Besides, the radiation frequencies are so high, why do you think you'll have issues with the towers? |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jun 19, 2024 18:11:08 GMT -6
Greetings. I'm looking at a potential new studio space that is in very close proximity to a cell tower. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation? Many thanks in advance, -09 Yes. How close are we talking? Cells work in the 600M-800MHz or 2G-2.4G ranges. Typically in the 3-100W total power range with single channels being around 10W. They also radiate outwards, so the worst place for cell reception is actually under the tower. If the tower is on top of the building then you're actually not getting much radiation from the tower. Besides, the radiation frequencies are so high, why do you think you'll have issues with the towers? The cell tower is behind where the new location would be by probably less than 50 yd. I'm not saying there would be problems, I'm saying I don't know and I'm asking if anybody has had experience with something like this and might be able to share that experience. If it is a problem is there any way around it or am I just screwed? Thanks. |
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Post by drumsound on Jun 19, 2024 21:58:19 GMT -6
IF you're building the space out, you can basically build a Faraday Cage into the walls...
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Post by damoongo on Jun 20, 2024 0:28:12 GMT -6
IF you're building the space out, you can basically build a Faraday Cage into the walls... Not cheap |
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Post by drumsound on Jun 20, 2024 7:49:52 GMT -6
IF you're building the space out, you can basically build a Faraday Cage into the walls... Not cheap Nothing about building out a room is cheap |
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Post by svart on Jun 20, 2024 7:51:49 GMT -6
Nothing about building out a room is cheap Metal window screen behind the drywall, just grounded should work fine. |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jun 20, 2024 9:13:32 GMT -6
The place is already built, so that isn't an option, sadly. That said, what can I expect, or will it even work as a studio?
Thanks,
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Post by svart on Jun 20, 2024 9:49:17 GMT -6
The place is already built, so that isn't an option, sadly. That said, what can I expect, or will it even work as a studio? Thanks, -09 I don't think you'll have any issues. Cell towers are not like radio towers. Radio towers blast the signal out with a lot of power *cue up 80's radio jingle "100 thousands watts of power!!!!"*. Whereas cell towers are very low power with the power spread across a lot of frequency range. FM is also in the 65M-108MHz range while AM is 530KHz to 1.7MHz and they would likely be very peaky in frequency (each tower would have only a few channels on it at most) compared to a cell tower. Besides, most "RF" problems are almost always grounding issues. FM and AM simply CANNOT interfere with audio UNLESS there is some kind of downconversion happening to bring the frequencies down and mix them with the audio. Bad connections with partial conductivity can form diode junctions that can demodulate radio (AM especially) with the audio acting as a local oscillator, very similar to how a simply crystal radio works. So the cell tower itself will not cause an issue anymore than looking at this forum on your phone while sitting in front of your computer in the studio does, UNLESS there are issues with some kind of wiring in the building/room. |
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Post by ericn on Jun 20, 2024 9:59:05 GMT -6
Have to agree with Svart, while living for 8 years directly under a T mobile cell antenna the only issues with RF were cabling and grounding.
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Post by Omicron9 on Jun 20, 2024 11:09:03 GMT -6
The place is already built, so that isn't an option, sadly. That said, what can I expect, or will it even work as a studio? Thanks, -09 I don't think you'll have any issues. Cell towers are not like radio towers. Radio towers blast the signal out with a lot of power *cue up 80's radio jingle "100 thousands watts of power!!!!"*. Whereas cell towers are very low power with the power spread across a lot of frequency range. FM is also in the 65M-108MHz range while AM is 530KHz to 1.7MHz and they would likely be very peaky in frequency (each tower would have only a few channels on it at most) compared to a cell tower. Besides, most "RF" problems are almost always grounding issues. FM and AM simply CANNOT interfere with audio UNLESS there is some kind of downconversion happening to bring the frequencies down and mix them with the audio. Bad connections with partial conductivity can form diode junctions that can demodulate radio (AM especially) with the audio acting as a local oscillator, very similar to how a simply crystal radio works. So the cell tower itself will not cause an issue anymore than looking at this forum on your phone while sitting in front of your computer in the studio does, UNLESS there are issues with some kind of wiring in the building/room. Beautiful. Thank you, svart.  |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jun 20, 2024 11:09:20 GMT -6
Have to agree with Svart, while living for 8 years directly under a T mobile cell antenna the only issues with RF were cabling and grounding. Wonderful! Thank you, ericn. |
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Post by ericn on Jun 21, 2024 12:51:57 GMT -6
Have to agree with Svart, while living for 8 years directly under a T mobile cell antenna the only issues with RF were cabling and grounding. Wonderful! Thank you, ericn. Funny enough I’m sitting here looking out the window of the new place and realizing I’m about 50 ft at a 30 degree angle below the 5G antenna array on top of the Crown Plaza. No special grounding, using all Canare Starquad no noise issues. Now I do have a call into a friend to see if I can borrow an RF spectrum analyzer not for this but some crazy ultra, ultra conservative Christian likes to set up his PA and tell us we are all going to hell as we go grocery shopping or to Starbucks, got himself a cheap wireless I want to find is freq. so I can stomp all over him😎 |
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Post by drumsound on Jun 21, 2024 14:27:12 GMT -6
Wonderful! Thank you, ericn. Funny enough I’m sitting here looking out the window of the new place and realizing I’m about 50 ft at a 30 degree angle below the 5G antenna array on top of the Crown Plaza. No special grounding, using all Canare Starquad no noise issues. Now I do have a call into a friend to see if I can borrow an RF spectrum analyzer not for this but some crazy ultra, ultra conservative Christian likes to set up his PA and tell us we are all going to hell as we go grocery shopping or to Starbucks, got himself a cheap wireless I want to find is freq. so I can stomp all over him😎  |
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