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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 17, 2024 13:31:02 GMT -6
What do peeps think of prices?
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Post by thehightenor on Jun 17, 2024 14:07:40 GMT -6
What do peeps think of prices? The train wreck series feels pricey in the UK. A train wreck STA Level clone is only £100 cheaper than a point to point hand wired no compromise build Retro STA Level. So in purely relative terms, that feels quite expensive.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 17, 2024 14:28:13 GMT -6
Ya, prices seemed a little higher then I expected.
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Post by ericn on Jun 17, 2024 15:52:22 GMT -6
Ya, prices seemed a little higher then I expected. If they are QC’ung and rehabing not bad. It takes time money and labor to do it so they have to make something. Not sure of their long term pricing plans, but a number of manufacturers have priced B stock based on what it cost to get that particular unit back to snuff.
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Post by ragan on Jun 17, 2024 15:54:46 GMT -6
And maybe you get AS warranty with the refurb?
I think this is a cool idea.
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Post by ericn on Jun 17, 2024 15:57:11 GMT -6
And maybe you get AS warranty with the refurb? I think this is a cool idea. I wonder if you get new tubes!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2024 16:25:23 GMT -6
Also - the current potatoes in DC want to tax the shit out of everyone for re-selling our gear to meet next months mortgage. But I mean $600 is untaxed - so you’ve got that going for you. ($600 total threshold for the year, that is) Just out of curiosity - how many times would a $1000 piece of equipment get taxed in this scenario? Is this really right? Once on the buyer for the sale, second on the seller for profit, third and fourth time on the trade-in transaction. Fifth and Sixth time are service fees for the transactions. Good to be the government…lots of payoffs to fund. 1. I'm guessing your spell check changed politicians to potatoes, but I'm gonna steal that now and start calling them potatoes. 2. I get that a single piece of gear getting taxed multiple times raises questions about why it is taxed more than once, which in simplistic terms does make a person want to ask such questions. I paid taxes when I bought it, why is it being taxed AGAIN when I sell it to someone else? Fair enough, but it's really effectively the transaction that is being taxed, not the gear itself, when you really think about it. As a related example, we don't pay income tax in Texas, so some people in other states are jealous of that when they hear about it. But then we conversely have one of if not THE highest property tax rates in the country. And we're taxed on that property every single year, even though we only bought the property once. Gotta pay for roads and services one way or another. Property tax. Income tax. Sales tax. Whatever. The point of all of that being that it's all just different ways of paying for the same thing. Now, there are of course arguments to be made about how much the government should or shouldn't be actually spending and the specific tax rates necessary to fund that level of spending, but as far as the specific type of taxing mechanism itself is concerned, I try not to get too hung up on that, as long as the type of taxing mechanism and rate is applied in an equitable manner (it often isn't though). I think a lot of us just got used to the idea of not paying tax on these sort of gear related transactions, even though we probably should have been paying taxes on those sort of transactions all along. And, not for nothing, but before the federal government started cracking down on mail order companies like Sweetwater, they had a built in price advantage over local mom and pops who still had to charge sales tax. That whole situation went on that way for many years, and certainly didn't ease the plight of the local mom and pop music stores, and I think most of us here would agree that it's a shame what has happened to the local music stores, record stores, independent venues, etc. It's all gotten real corporate, and that's honestly where I lay the most blame for this stuff. If large corporations actually paid a more equitable tax rate, maybe the effective tax rate, that us regular joes pay on things like gear transactions, could go down. No…I meant potato.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 17, 2024 16:27:12 GMT -6
You can get a vcomp for 1100 shipped. Thats $500 cheaper and you'll know it works. Pretty good deal to me there.
76A not so much but that's only because it was $750 I think when they first came out and have since gone up in price.
But I bet be a good place to get a 1178 or DA3A and save some dough. And be cheaper that reverb prices id guess.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 17, 2024 17:03:31 GMT -6
And no reverb bs!
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Post by Quint on Jun 17, 2024 17:07:27 GMT -6
1. I'm guessing your spell check changed politicians to potatoes, but I'm gonna steal that now and start calling them potatoes. 2. I get that a single piece of gear getting taxed multiple times raises questions about why it is taxed more than once, which in simplistic terms does make a person want to ask such questions. I paid taxes when I bought it, why is it being taxed AGAIN when I sell it to someone else? Fair enough, but it's really effectively the transaction that is being taxed, not the gear itself, when you really think about it. As a related example, we don't pay income tax in Texas, so some people in other states are jealous of that when they hear about it. But then we conversely have one of if not THE highest property tax rates in the country. And we're taxed on that property every single year, even though we only bought the property once. Gotta pay for roads and services one way or another. Property tax. Income tax. Sales tax. Whatever. The point of all of that being that it's all just different ways of paying for the same thing. Now, there are of course arguments to be made about how much the government should or shouldn't be actually spending and the specific tax rates necessary to fund that level of spending, but as far as the specific type of taxing mechanism itself is concerned, I try not to get too hung up on that, as long as the type of taxing mechanism and rate is applied in an equitable manner (it often isn't though). I think a lot of us just got used to the idea of not paying tax on these sort of gear related transactions, even though we probably should have been paying taxes on those sort of transactions all along. And, not for nothing, but before the federal government started cracking down on mail order companies like Sweetwater, they had a built in price advantage over local mom and pops who still had to charge sales tax. That whole situation went on that way for many years, and certainly didn't ease the plight of the local mom and pop music stores, and I think most of us here would agree that it's a shame what has happened to the local music stores, record stores, independent venues, etc. It's all gotten real corporate, and that's honestly where I lay the most blame for this stuff. If large corporations actually paid a more equitable tax rate, maybe the effective tax rate, that us regular joes pay on things like gear transactions, could go down. No…I meant potato. Well I like it, nonetheless. It seems fitting.
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