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Post by geoff738 on Jun 6, 2024 14:43:23 GMT -6
Non Pultec.
Non 500 series.
what do you like? What applications?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by seawell on Jun 6, 2024 14:50:11 GMT -6
Avalon AD2055 and Iron Age Audioworks V2 are a couple of favorites that I felt like I could use anywhere(including mix buss).
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 6, 2024 15:59:15 GMT -6
High Voltage Audio EQ6-S is one of my favs.
Silver Bullet of course.
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Post by ab101 on Jun 6, 2024 17:00:52 GMT -6
Love the Iron Age V2.
Also like the Drawmer 1974, so I will be really interested to hear about their new 1971.
Thermionic Swift is beautiful!
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Post by FM77 on Jun 6, 2024 17:39:32 GMT -6
A-Designs Hammer 2. Or an original HM2EQ.
You can find these used at about 1500.
For an additive EQ, tracking or mixing. Always compliments the source, musically. And it can be dual mono.
It probably sounds great on a 2-bus and it's dentented, but i have never use it there.
A-designs gets looked over in conversation alot, but Peter is a great designer and person. He makes great gear. The last time I bought from them, he sold direct and at a bonafide discount. I just sent him an email.
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 6, 2024 18:23:39 GMT -6
Can someone speak to the difference between theIron Age V2 and the one that just 500 series, the H95 iirc?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 6, 2024 18:36:27 GMT -6
If I ever need such Iron Age would be my choice too. Exactly what I'd be looking for.
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 6, 2024 18:58:37 GMT -6
Can someone speak to the difference between theIron Age V2 and the one that just 500 series, the H95 iirc? Cheers, Geoff Hello, I can. The V2 is an active EQ that uses bridged-T filters and op amps. This is the same approach as is used in the API 550. The low and high bands can be peak or shelf, and the mid band is peaking. There is also a band pass filter to tame sonic extremes. It has a balanced input and a transformer balanced output, and is dual mono. All controls are switched, so it can be used as a stereo EQ. It runs off of a +/-24V power supply, and has very high headroom. Really nice top, very unique and pleasant mids (boost the 5k!), nice low-end warmth from the transformer. The V25 is the same EQ in the 500 series format. The H9 is a 500 series module that is a two stage, class A design. The first stage is a transformer balanced mic pre or line input followed by a high pass filter. The unit then has a passive (lossy) EQ with a shelving high band, a peaking inductor mid band, and a combination inductor high pass shelf filter (for cut) and peaking (for boost) low band. The second stage adds make up gain for the passive EQ. This is a tribute to classic desks, and has a clear, woody tone that can be pushed into rad gnarly distortion. |
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Post by drbill on Jun 6, 2024 21:15:09 GMT -6
Avalon 2055 (although technically I guess it's really dual mono) and for the sub lows, and airy HF - the Silver Bullet mk2.
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Post by thehightenor on Jun 7, 2024 2:20:06 GMT -6
Questions like this just get a list of gear everyone uses - usually 30 replies and 30 different units - it’s like looking in shops inventory so really of limited use.
But equally it’s fun to see what everyone is using so in the spirit of adding to the list.
My current go to is the Thermionic Swift tube EQ which covers a huge range of sounds - Maag air band - passive inductor mids - Baxandall shelves - Presence boost.
To my ears, it sound glorious on the mix bus but is also great for tracking and channel inserts.
Definitely broad crayon not surgical precision.
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Post by lowlou on Jun 7, 2024 5:08:48 GMT -6
Motorcity eq by Heritage, motown inspired. A pair of them will give you stereo !
Wide curves, 7 octaves, musical... Not expensive for the sound.
If I could I'd get four more units !
They also make Lang eqs now, never tried them, but I intend to.
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Post by FM77 on Jun 7, 2024 9:39:50 GMT -6
Questions like this just get a list of gear everyone uses - usually 30 replies and 30 different units - it’s like looking in shops inventory so really of limited use.
Yeah, I would tend to agree, at least as it is shaping up in this thread. The information is much more useful when the replies include applications, which Geoff asked for and which the majority have left out. But... since these types of questions are in constant rotation, I appreciate seeing certain gear pop up again and again.
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Post by Ward on Jun 7, 2024 9:58:56 GMT -6
Depending on the application, but for actual stereo EQing on a buss, especially the 2-Buss? Very difficult to beat the Focusrite Red 2
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Post by kbsmoove on Jun 7, 2024 10:00:07 GMT -6
Another vote for the iron age v2 - i have one along with an API 5500. the 5500 is more flexible, but the V2 sounds better on more sources. the lows and low mids between the two are interchangeable for me, but the V2 top sounds better on things like cymabls and mix bus.
(i'm patiently waiting for iron age to make a 4 band version of the v2 using their new knobs/switches)
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Post by bgrotto on Jun 7, 2024 11:36:16 GMT -6
I’ve got an Avalon 2055 and crane song ibis here that I love. Two very different sounds, both “clean” but with very distinctive voicing. The Avalon is a bit softer in the top, with more of a silky quality, so I like using it for cleaning harsh HF. Plus it’s fully parametric so it’s good at resonance seek and destroy. The ibis is more “firm” sounding and works great for boosting punchy signals like drum busses.
The old GML 8200 is great for surgery or very transparent sweetening. I love showing students what it can do to the air band of a vocal (we have a GML in every studio at Berklee and for some dumb reason the kids don’t go anywhere near them🤦🏻♂️).
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Post by Ward on Jun 7, 2024 12:14:12 GMT -6
(we have a GML in every studio at Berklee and for some dumb reason the kids don’t go anywhere near them🤦🏻♂️). There's a REALLY good reason for that. Their younger ears are more tuned in to things we can't hear as clearly. |
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 7, 2024 14:04:27 GMT -6
Yeah, these often end up as lists of what people own/use. But it’s still instructive, there’s a reason people own/use what they do. And I learned about a couple pieces that weren’t on my radar. And seeing stuff pop up multiple times also tells me something.
The only hw eqs in my quiver are the cheap dbx one, which is ok, and the much derided Avalon 737. Whose eq I actually like. It’s been out on loan for about a decade to a guy who actually uses it and writes much better songs than I do. Hello Alun! So both mono pieces. My Overstayer comp has limited, but useful stereo eq. I have a bazillion sw eqs, including the Silver Bullet, SieQ, Kush Electra, PSP Avedis, Trident, Helios, etc. So do I need a stereo hw eq? Probably not. Want? Debating.
So even if there is a tendency for these kind of queries to be lists of stuff people own, I still get some value out of that. In other words, keep em coming.
And, hoping the Shadow is doing ok. Haven’t seen him around these parts lately.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by bgrotto on Jun 7, 2024 14:27:08 GMT -6
(we have a GML in every studio at Berklee and for some dumb reason the kids don’t go anywhere near them🤦🏻♂️). There's a REALLY good reason for that. Their younger ears are more tuned in to things we can't hear as clearly. Haha well, they actually avoid ALL the outboard. fucking cowards. 😂 |
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Post by Ward on Jun 7, 2024 14:47:21 GMT -6
There's a REALLY good reason for that. Their younger ears are more tuned in to things we can't hear as clearly. Haha well, they actually avoid ALL the outboard. fucking cowards. 😂 Oh man, those cowards. I much prefer being a Ward than a Co-Ward |
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Post by ironinthepath on Jun 7, 2024 14:57:33 GMT -6
I’ve been liking my Buzz Audio Zodiak….also the Great River EQ2NV is super flexible.
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Post by ericn on Jun 7, 2024 15:38:48 GMT -6
I’ve got an Avalon 2055 and crane song ibis here that I love. Two very different sounds, both “clean” but with very distinctive voicing. The Avalon is a bit softer in the top, with more of a silky quality, so I like using it for cleaning harsh HF. Plus it’s fully parametric so it’s good at resonance seek and destroy. The ibis is more “firm” sounding and works great for boosting punchy signals like drum busses. The old GML 8200 is great for surgery or very transparent sweetening. I love showing students what it can do to the air band of a vocal (we have a GML in every studio at Berklee and for some dumb reason the kids don’t go anywhere near them🤦🏻♂️). All those knobs on a parametric scare the crap out of many. Those who grew up on plugins are accustomed to the graphical feedback of the combination they have dialed in. Plus you have to remember the GML has this reputation for “clean”, they think digital “clean “ is the same as GML “ clean”, we know it’s not. |
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Post by ericn on Jun 7, 2024 15:50:35 GMT -6
One of my most missed EQ’s is as rare as just about anything, it’s a very specialized piece mainly used in contracting, out of the box it’s not bad but send it to Jim Williams and it becomes a pretty awesome tool. I can’t remember the model # nor can I find one but what it is is a Rane 5 band parametric with all bands being the LF band on the standard version. The power these things give you to craft the lowend is amazing, yeah there are plugins you can do it with and even reasonably priced used digitally controlled parametrics, but I miss the Rane.
I know a couple of consultants who would spec them in clubs, sadly most ended up in dumpsters because most didn’t realize the power 5 bands of LF EQ brought to the table.
Another pair of interesting EQ’s from live / install land are the Meyer CP10 and the Apogee CRQ-12 phase coherent EQ’s again they reall need a Cap and opamp upgrade, but for the money used damn these are a bargain.
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Post by bgrotto on Jun 7, 2024 20:33:21 GMT -6
I’ve got an Avalon 2055 and crane song ibis here that I love. Two very different sounds, both “clean” but with very distinctive voicing. The Avalon is a bit softer in the top, with more of a silky quality, so I like using it for cleaning harsh HF. Plus it’s fully parametric so it’s good at resonance seek and destroy. The ibis is more “firm” sounding and works great for boosting punchy signals like drum busses. The old GML 8200 is great for surgery or very transparent sweetening. I love showing students what it can do to the air band of a vocal (we have a GML in every studio at Berklee and for some dumb reason the kids don’t go anywhere near them🤦🏻♂️). All those knobs on a parametric scare the crap out of many. Those who grew up on plugins are accustomed to the graphical feedback of the combination they have dialed in. Plus you have to remember the GML has this reputation for “clean”, they think digital “clean “ is the same as GML “ clean”, we know it’s not. Commitment is what scares them. They want the security of opening a session two hours later and being able to change their settings. 😕 |
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 7, 2024 20:39:41 GMT -6
All those knobs on a parametric scare the crap out of many. Those who grew up on plugins are accustomed to the graphical feedback of the combination they have dialed in. Plus you have to remember the GML has this reputation for “clean”, they think digital “clean “ is the same as GML “ clean”, we know it’s not. Commitment is what scares them. They want the security of opening a session two hours later and being able to change their settings. 😕 They should be required to do a session limited to 8 tracks. Or better yet live to two tracks. No overdubs. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by ericn on Jun 7, 2024 20:53:48 GMT -6
Commitment is what scares them. They want the security of opening a session two hours later and being able to change their settings. 😕 They should be required to do a session limited to 8 tracks. Or better yet live to two tracks. No overdubs. Cheers, Geoff 4 or 8 tracks requires commitment and planning, I hate to admit it but 2 track often you can just wing it and nail it. |
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