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Post by ericn on Aug 6, 2014 17:17:48 GMT -6
Again, the record companies could not make a deal with anybody without negotiating new recording contracts. In fact they would have been sued by artists for negligence if they didn't do everything in their power to defend the artists' copyrights. This is also part of the problem,& Napster knew it, to many parties and lawyers to get an agreement ! The thing is we have to remember to some extent we are all guilty, if we didn't do a download we have all at some point made a mix tape or played a gig of covers without paying ASCAP! I have noticed a weird disconnect with musicians " there's no money in music " Same guy " Who Pays royalties ? Those guys are all rich". |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 6, 2014 18:11:09 GMT -6
That's a whole new can of worms ericn, one that will never be solved. I've known thousands of cover bands and never once known of anyone mention paying royalties. I think this issue may be like driving 64 in a 55. You know, 9 your fine 10 your mine?
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Post by ericn on Aug 6, 2014 18:34:18 GMT -6
That's a whole new can of worms ericn, one that will never be solved. I've known thousands of cover bands and never once known of anyone mention paying royalties. I think this issue may be like driving 64 in a 55. You know, 9 your fine 10 your mine? Cowboy That's just it though , unless we can somehow get our own to toe the line how is the rest of the world going to respect us? The thing that everybody forgets is at the big bad law firms that these Companies use their are at least a couple of musican/ songwriters who know how easy Pickens we are! |
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Post by ericn on Aug 6, 2014 18:39:11 GMT -6
This is also why I see book publishers as our savior if we piggyback on what they eventually do . They don't have the alternative revenue streams, it's pretty much trust their intelectual property, and unlike the music buisness pretty much every political players got a book deal!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 7, 2014 7:57:08 GMT -6
That's a whole new can of worms ericn, one that will never be solved. I've known thousands of cover bands and never once known of anyone mention paying royalties. I think this issue may be like driving 64 in a 55. You know, 9 your fine 10 your mine? Cover bands don't normally pay for the license, it's the venue that has to procure it. Also, with my original band, we've played venues that have specified that we weren't allowed to play any cover songs in the set because they weren't licensed for covers. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 7, 2014 8:18:20 GMT -6
How about inventing something where you get half the album when you buy and the other half when a keepsake (one time) dongle is mailed.
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Post by Ward on Aug 7, 2014 9:19:28 GMT -6
That's a whole new can of worms ericn, one that will never be solved. I've known thousands of cover bands and never once known of anyone mention paying royalties. I think this issue may be like driving 64 in a 55. You know, 9 your fine 10 your mine? What about 150 on the I90 between Albany and Syracuse, then slow down until your 10 miles outside of Syracuse and back to 150 until you're close to Buffalo. I can't be the only one... On another note entirely and back on topic:What is the 'Brass Ring' now??? What are young artists reaching for? How does one 'make it'? Are there any labels doing anything that helps a signed artist success to fame and fortune and success, or do they just seek publishing deals? Do they just lobby all other acts to get on tours? Do they instead need agents to represent their recorded works to film and tv production companies and shop them to Advertising Agencies for licensing? What constitutes 'making it' nowadays? |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 7, 2014 10:12:46 GMT -6
The venue or promoter pays for public performance licenses.
A couple things none of the consumer computer industry want people in the USA to know about is that there is a PRO for artists called Sound Exchange and that all streaming arrangements are negotiable with individual artists. That means if an internet station is really likely to help your career, you can offer them a free license for whatever period of time you wish. WFMU in New York plays all kinds of alternative music and pays no streaming royalties because they have obtained licenses from the artists involved.
Sad to say most opening acts today have to pay for the privilege. This is yet another reason we need a new generation of local venues and promoters.
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Post by keymod on Aug 8, 2014 5:22:51 GMT -6
That's a whole new can of worms ericn, one that will never be solved. I've known thousands of cover bands and never once known of anyone mention paying royalties. I think this issue may be like driving 64 in a 55. You know, 9 your fine 10 your mine? But aren't the venues responsible for paying the royalties on entertainment in their establishment? Never mind, read more and saw answers |
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Post by levon on Aug 8, 2014 5:41:52 GMT -6
That's a whole new can of worms ericn, one that will never be solved. I've known thousands of cover bands and never once known of anyone mention paying royalties. I think this issue may be like driving 64 in a 55. You know, 9 your fine 10 your mine? This is an issue, but not just with cover bands. I wrote lyrics for a band back in the 1990s. All original material. They played the songs live and got paid for it. I got nothing. So I asked them to declare the gigs, pay the royalties (that would have to be paid by the concert organizer anyway, not the band) and I would be compensated too. On top, they would also receive royalties for playing their own songs. But they didn't understand or care. Never filled out any track sheets but got paid for playing song which were half mine. |
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