|
|
Post by antipodesjosh on May 14, 2024 16:03:08 GMT -6
|
|
|
|
Post by phdamage on May 14, 2024 22:17:52 GMT -6
Hmm. I was curious about the 308 but it had two capsules (I believe) so it was able to provide a much tighter pickup pattern. Though the price and monstrous size made me pass on trying it. This is intriguing but for $400 I would much rather take a gamble on Samar’s side address SDC offering
|
|
|
|
Post by christophert on May 15, 2024 0:47:37 GMT -6
The 308 is amazing on toms !
Everything else has retired
|
|
|
|
Post by mcirish on May 15, 2024 11:18:14 GMT -6
It's kind of a hard sell at $400 for a tom mic, unless you track a lot of heavy tom drummers. Think of the cost per hit? :-)
The ATM450 is half that price. I haven't tried it though, so it may not be great. I do have to say I am using ATM230 on toms and I don't get any complaints. Sounds very good to me, especially when compared to my 421's I use to use.
|
|
|
|
Post by Dan on May 15, 2024 11:35:49 GMT -6
Close drum mics get whacked too.
|
|
|
|
Post by phdamage on May 15, 2024 11:50:56 GMT -6
It's kind of a hard sell at $400 for a tom mic, unless you track a lot of heavy tom drummers. Think of the cost per hit? :-) The ATM450 is half that price. I haven't tried it though, so it may not be great. I do have to say I am using ATM230 on toms and I don't get any complaints. Sounds very good to me, especially when compared to my 421's I use to use. I do have a pair of ATM450s still (used to have like 6!). They are tough to beat on placement but sound is pretty thin - not the kinda thing you really want on toms (at least for the kind of projects I usually work on). |
|
|
|
Post by mcirish on May 15, 2024 11:57:00 GMT -6
It's kind of a hard sell at $400 for a tom mic, unless you track a lot of heavy tom drummers. Think of the cost per hit? :-) The ATM450 is half that price. I haven't tried it though, so it may not be great. I do have to say I am using ATM230 on toms and I don't get any complaints. Sounds very good to me, especially when compared to my 421's I use to use. I do have a pair of ATM450s still (used to have like 6!). They are tough to beat on placement but sound is pretty thin - not the kinda thing you really want on toms (at least for the kind of projects I usually work on). Good to know! |
|
|
|
Post by Blackdawg on May 15, 2024 12:17:29 GMT -6
I think they sound great. And $400 is nothing. Seems like a great deal for a nice sound large diaphragm mic. I could see them being a bit of a pain to place since they are so short comparted to the LS308 which had more reach from it's mounting point.
|
|
|
|
Post by notneeson on May 15, 2024 13:10:56 GMT -6
I think they sound great. And $400 is nothing. Seems like a great deal for a nice sound large diaphragm mic. I could see them being a bit of a pain to place since they are so short comparted to the LS308 which had more reach from it's mounting point. I was briefly pondering what the Warm 414 clone might do on toms and then realized they omitted super cardiod. These are potentially pretty rad. That said, Audio-Technica AE3000s are really good on toms and a bit more affordable. |
|
|
|
Post by Blackdawg on May 15, 2024 13:40:47 GMT -6
I think they sound great. And $400 is nothing. Seems like a great deal for a nice sound large diaphragm mic. I could see them being a bit of a pain to place since they are so short comparted to the LS308 which had more reach from it's mounting point. I was briefly pondering what the Warm 414 clone might do on toms and then realized they omitted super cardiod. These are potentially pretty rad. That said, Audio-Technica AE3000s are really good on toms and a bit more affordable. I like C414's on toms for sure. Haven't had them around in a while. Been mostly using DPA4099's. But I'd give these a go. |
|
|
|
Post by nomatic on May 15, 2024 14:55:57 GMT -6
I am gonna see if I can get a demo...
|
|
|
|
Post by jmoose on May 15, 2024 15:09:17 GMT -6
I am gonna see if I can get a demo... Gonna be hard to top this one, at least from the cool factor... |
|
|
|
Post by sirthought on May 15, 2024 20:45:21 GMT -6
I was curious if Ward has tried these already. I didn't think the tom sound was anything to write home about, but it might be helpful for bleed and still get good tone with overheads. |
|
|
|
Post by Ward on May 16, 2024 9:53:34 GMT -6
I was curious if Ward has tried these already. I didn't think the tom sound was anything to write home about, but it might be helpful for bleed and still get good tone with overheads. I haven't yet tried them yet but I would like to. Based on my capture, and comparing this video to the previous official ones from Lauten, I think perhaps the 308 sounds better but the 'tom mic' is more compact and is easier to position for difficult situations. I don't think the audition and recording sessions they are basing the videos on are very flattering to the microphones and the sound capture is heavily influenced by the room tone in all cases...something for them to think about. But that's just conjecture. This is not: |
|
|
|
Post by paulcheeba on May 16, 2024 22:04:18 GMT -6
It's kind of a hard sell at $400 for a tom mic, unless you track a lot of heavy tom drummers. Think of the cost per hit? :-) The ATM450 is half that price. I haven't tried it though, so it may not be great. I do have to say I am using ATM230 on toms and I don't get any complaints. Sounds very good to me, especially when compared to my 421's I use to use. Not compared to e22’s. They were more than 3 times that but sound like it. |
|
|
|
Post by Ward on May 17, 2024 6:22:57 GMT -6
It's kind of a hard sell at $400 for a tom mic, unless you track a lot of heavy tom drummers. Think of the cost per hit? :-) The ATM450 is half that price. I haven't tried it though, so it may not be great. I do have to say I am using ATM230 on toms and I don't get any complaints. Sounds very good to me, especially when compared to my 421's I use to use. Not compared to e22’s. They were more than 3 times that but sound like it. Fair. I used the LS308s to replace a set of U89s and U87s, so I spared the Neumann capacitor mics further abuse,, result: net savings |
|
|
|
Post by paulcheeba on May 19, 2024 0:10:42 GMT -6
Not compared to e22’s. They were more than 3 times that but sound like it. Fair. I used the LS308s to replace a set of U89s and U87s, so I spared the Neumann capacitor mics further abuse,, result: net savings You inspired me to buy one to check out. I have a feeling it’ll come in handy. |
|
|
|
Post by EmRR on May 19, 2024 10:30:44 GMT -6
I can’t get my 308 off acoustic bass to try it on toms, it usually won’t fit in there anyway. This thing doesn’t have the same pattern control though the eq plot looks similar at a glance. Oktava MK-102’s are killing on toms here, best off axis rejection and sound i’ve gotten to date, and cheaper if you can find them.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ward on May 19, 2024 15:11:49 GMT -6
I can’t get my 308 off acoustic bass to try it on toms, it usually won’t fit in there anyway. This thing doesn’t have the same pattern control though the eq plot looks similar at a glance. Oktava MK-102’s are killing on toms here, best off axis rejection and sound i’ve gotten to date, and cheaper if you can find them. Cheers on the acoustic bass application |
|
|
|
Post by phdamage on May 21, 2024 11:58:12 GMT -6
I can’t get my 308 off acoustic bass to try it on toms, it usually won’t fit in there anyway. This thing doesn’t have the same pattern control though the eq plot looks similar at a glance. Oktava MK-102’s are killing on toms here, best off axis rejection and sound i’ve gotten to date, and cheaper if you can find them. Just wanted to be sure you meant MK-102s and not MK-012s. I have been using 012s on toms for many years. never tried those LDC caps for them though. |
|
|
|
Post by EmRR on May 21, 2024 12:14:38 GMT -6
Yes 102’s. LDC.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ward on May 22, 2024 7:48:11 GMT -6
|
|
|
|
Post by EmRR on May 22, 2024 12:53:06 GMT -6
I dunno if they’re good for anything else, but they’re good here! |
|
|
|
Post by Ward on May 22, 2024 13:44:18 GMT -6
I dunno if they’re good for anything else, but they’re good here! Take pictures in place if you're set up now . . . if not, next time please. Allow me to steal from your ideas. LOL |
|
|
|
Post by paulcheeba on May 22, 2024 22:16:22 GMT -6
My 308 arrived wow that’s chunkier than I imagined but I’m guessing before opening it that it has more space for decent components.
|
|
