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Post by Johnkenn on May 9, 2024 20:06:22 GMT -6
Well, guess I’m gonna find out what this thing is all about. Being in stock was just too much to take. I’ve never actually used a 660…I’ve heard people say they were a lot different from the 670s…not sure how?
Anyway - it’ll be interesting to see how it compares to something like a Sta which I’m familiar with. Hoping it can live on bass and vocals.
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Post by drumsound on May 9, 2024 21:21:36 GMT -6
I wonder if the lack of Lat/vert on the 660 makes it that much different.
We'll all be interested to hear your thoughts.
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Post by drsax on May 9, 2024 21:23:33 GMT -6
Well, guess I’m gonna find out what this thing is all about. Being in stock was just too much to take. I’ve never actually used a 660…I’ve heard people say they were a lot different from the 670s…not sure how? Anyway - it’ll be interesting to see how it compares to something like a Sta which I’m familiar with. Hoping it can live on bass and vocals. I have the MK I Stamchild 670 and it is spectacular. It often beats my stable of high end tube compressors, most of which are stunning sounding as well. Of course it’s source dependent, but the 660 and 670 are classics for a reason, they sound great on almost anything. I’m guessing Stam’s 660 is gonna sound incredible. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 9, 2024 21:42:20 GMT -6
Well, guess I’m gonna find out what this thing is all about. Being in stock was just too much to take. I’ve never actually used a 660…I’ve heard people say they were a lot different from the 670s…not sure how? Anyway - it’ll be interesting to see how it compares to something like a Sta which I’m familiar with. Hoping it can live on bass and vocals. I have the MK I Stamchild 670 and it is spectacular. It often beats my stable of high end tube compressors, most of which are stunning sounding as well. Of course it’s source dependent, but the 660 and 670 are classics for a reason, they sound great on almost anything. I’m guessing Stam’s 660 is gonna sound incredible. I feel warm inside. Or at least I will when it gets here in this room in the summer. |
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Post by Blackdawg on May 9, 2024 22:07:16 GMT -6
I have one. Haven't used it enough to fully decide if I want to keep it or not.
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Post by mike on May 9, 2024 22:34:20 GMT -6
I have one. Can't say enough good things about it, and is currently my favorite vocal comp.
I really like the curve and size choices the DC Threshold control gives you on it.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 10, 2024 7:34:45 GMT -6
Lucky you!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 10, 2024 11:12:59 GMT -6
I have one. Can't say enough good things about it, and is currently my favorite vocal comp. I really like the curve and size choices the DC Threshold control gives you on it. So what is the DC threshold? Like the knee? |
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Post by mike on May 10, 2024 18:25:31 GMT -6
I have one. Can't say enough good things about it, and is currently my favorite vocal comp. I really like the curve and size choices the DC Threshold control gives you on it. So what is the DC threshold? Like the knee? I'm the expert of nothing, but the added DC threshold knob seems to be a combination of knee and ratio control so you can go from hard knee/higher ratio to soft knee lower ratio or in-between I believe. On vocals for me depending on how you set the DC Threshold you can go from huge and pillowy to harder knee and more compression FWIW, I added a review of my Stam 660 in the review section. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 17, 2024 16:32:54 GMT -6
Just got it! Been singing some stuff...It's pretty glorious. The gain reduction is as completely transparent as the Sta-level...and with the DC Threshold, you can adjust if it grabs more than you want. Sonically, It has that fantastic MU gain reduction, but it's not as big on bottom as a sta - at least the Retro. Where the Sta feels like it adds a big soft bottom, it also adds a sheen on top IMO...The 660 doesn't seem to do that. In fact, it's the way it handles the top end transients (again, only been singing) with less spitty artifacts. Not that the sta is bad FFS, just that this is how I hear the 660 being different - and the sta is a great reference for me. I might even say tonally, this sounds more in the territory of the Chandler RS124...with a few less bells and whistles. While I loved the 124 on bass, I just thought the attack slope (slew?) was a little aggressive and it just didn't suit me for vocals. (Yeah, yeah...John and Paul would like a word...) I thought the 124 was a little more pronounced/muscular in the upper lower mids - like around 250 area...and the sta is lower. I think I'll actually prefer this over the sta for vocals. Which is a really, really big statement for me. Looks wise, it's just fantastic IMO. This and the 609 are sexy beasts...(Cut me some slack, I've been married 22 years). But damnit...it matters. Call me a luddite, but I'm just not gonna go shop for a 1073 and bring home a maroon Golden Age. So, I applaud the aesthetics. Here's a clip - one time through, untuned because I want you all to suffer. This is going into the Black Lion Apollo mod AD...think I'll try one going through the Hilo too and post just to see if there's any discernible difference. This is a Soyuz 017 --> Stam 1073+ --> Stam 660 --> Apollo AD RAW - drive.google.com/file/d/1IU5mnWj39Snu5rNPBw3t8Io4HK8VB2cU/view?usp=sharingEQ and Verb - drive.google.com/file/d/1q5imjdmvBLp6fwvZ8XN_CQ0yc54EHljM/view?usp=sharingPic of EQ settings i.postimg.cc/hjBrqdL6/Screenshot-2024-05-17-at-4-59-16-PM.png |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 17, 2024 16:37:19 GMT -6
So happy for you !
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Post by Johnkenn on May 17, 2024 21:41:33 GMT -6
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Post by seawell on May 17, 2024 22:31:54 GMT -6
Whew...that thing is gorgeous! Sounds as good as it looks too. Congrats John!
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Post by stam on May 18, 2024 0:10:02 GMT -6
Thanks John!!
DC Threshold on position 1 would be the most “similar” to a Fairchild 660
I say similar because each Fairchild also has a pot and can be calibrated. But in general terms that’s the ballpark
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Post by Ward on May 18, 2024 8:00:49 GMT -6
stop spending my money! The wife has assigned other priorities for the spoils of my workaholic tendencies. |
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Post by Ward on May 18, 2024 8:01:25 GMT -6
Thanks John!! DC Threshold on position 1 would be the most “similar” to a Fairchild 660 I say similar because each Fairchild also has a pot and can be calibrated. But in general terms that’s the ballpark You knocked it out of the park, Josh, down the road and over the hill into the next continent. |
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Post by Ward on May 18, 2024 8:03:27 GMT -6
SNIP Pic of EQ settings SNIP] Looks like you turned the Soyuz into a 251  |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 18, 2024 10:17:06 GMT -6
SNIP Pic of EQ settings SNIP] Looks like you turned the Soyuz into a 251 It really can sound similar to a 251 or 67. I’ve got a Signal Arts 48 coming too! |
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Post by sentientsound on May 18, 2024 10:17:53 GMT -6
Lovely, congrats!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 18, 2024 11:29:10 GMT -6
Just thinking about how to properly gain stage this thing. So the input is an attenuator, right? So let’s say I’m coming in at -35/40 db on the 1073 and it’s peaking around -6 db on the meter. I know I’m not overloading the input, so should I start the input wide open? Shouldn’t I be seeing -6 db if it’s not attenuating anything?
I guess the short question is: how do you calibrate a 660? It’s not hard to dial in, I just want to know the proper way to do it.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 18, 2024 13:05:47 GMT -6
Looking forward to hearing a few samples.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 18, 2024 13:38:32 GMT -6
Looking forward to hearing a few samples. There are a few up above |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 18, 2024 13:56:24 GMT -6
Just thinking as I sit at a graduation party. In that raw clip, I heard some room - which I’ve never really heard in my room before. Just interesting that was there…maybe just a coincidence
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Post by indiehouse on May 18, 2024 15:13:10 GMT -6
Just thinking about how to properly gain stage this thing. So the input is an attenuator, right? So let’s say I’m coming in at -35/40 db on the 1073 and it’s peaking around -6 db on the meter. I know I’m not overloading the input, so should I start the input wide open? Shouldn’t I be seeing -6 db if it’s not attenuating anything? I guess the short question is: how do you calibrate a 660? It’s not hard to dial in, I just want to know the proper way to do it. I had the MKI and now the MKII 670. I still struggle to understand how to gain stage this properly. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 18, 2024 15:58:04 GMT -6
I saw some video somewhere showing how to calibrate an 1176 with a 1khz tone. And the settings ended up pretty much where I’d been using it. I’m looking for the video and can’t find it anywhere…I never went to school for any of this, so maybe these are like fundamentals that everyone knows how to do…
I’m about to go up and try, but will it pass audio with the input all the way up and threshold all the way down? Then maybe shoot a sine wav out and…I’m already a little confused because if you’re sending a signal from the pre and it’s peaking at -6…then since there’s no output stage, it’s obviously not getting any louder than -6, right?
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