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Post by Johnkenn on May 9, 2024 17:45:28 GMT -6
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Post by tasteliketape on May 9, 2024 18:12:24 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 9, 2024 18:39:08 GMT -6
yeah bought that one too...but doesn't seem to work as well as this one
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Post by tasteliketape on May 9, 2024 19:02:34 GMT -6
Well DAMN ‘ now I gotta go back and buy Vocal one lol
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Post by Johnkenn on May 9, 2024 19:05:13 GMT -6
$16 on their site. Lucky me, I bought it for $30 on Pluginboutique…#alwayscheckthesite
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Post by bgrotto on May 9, 2024 21:29:05 GMT -6
I like Vocal Shaper. Solid tool. BTW , surprisingly useful as a percussion even-er-outter
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Post by spud on May 10, 2024 4:08:06 GMT -6
I had never heard of this plugin... Holy shit it works well! At this price I will have to buy it, the demud is much more effective than a Pro-Q with dynamic bands, at least on the few tests I have done. Being a small sound engineer, I work a lot on crappy vocals on crappy mp3 instrumentals, this thing will save me time on these unpleasant projects. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 10, 2024 6:14:37 GMT -6
I had never heard of this plugin... Holy shit it works well! At this price I will have to buy it, the demud is much more effective than a Pro-Q with dynamic bands, at least on the few tests I have done. Being a small sound engineer, I work a lot on crappy vocals on crappy mp3 instrumentals, this thing will save me time on these unpleasant projects. Thanks for sharing! Yeah it’s definitely the best de-mudder I’ve heard. Pulling out stuff that I sometimes hear but don’t identify as “mud.” Kinda one of those things where you start turning the knob and go “ oh…that does sound better.” And the deesser. Freaking awesome. I also chose Outlaw over bass rider (well, TBF, it was cheaper.) seems to do the job well. I’m gonna have to peruse through all of their plugs. |
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Post by bgrotto on May 10, 2024 6:53:01 GMT -6
I had never heard of this plugin... Holy shit it works well! At this price I will have to buy it, the demud is much more effective than a Pro-Q with dynamic bands, at least on the few tests I have done. Being a small sound engineer, I work a lot on crappy vocals on crappy mp3 instrumentals, this thing will save me time on these unpleasant projects. Thanks for sharing! Yeah it’s definitely the best de-mudder I’ve heard. Pulling out stuff that I sometimes hear but don’t identify as “mud.” Kinda one of those things where you start turning the knob and go “ oh…that does sound better.” And the deesser. Freaking awesome. I also chose Outlaw over bass rider (well, TBF, it was cheaper.) seems to do the job well. I’m gonna have to peruse through all of their plugs. The kick shaper plug is pretty cool. Not a staple like the vocal shaper, but really useful when you need it |
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Post by bossanova on May 10, 2024 13:03:30 GMT -6
I had never heard of this plugin... Holy shit it works well! At this price I will have to buy it, the demud is much more effective than a Pro-Q with dynamic bands, at least on the few tests I have done. Being a small sound engineer, I work a lot on crappy vocals on crappy mp3 instrumentals, this thing will save me time on these unpleasant projects. Thanks for sharing! Yeah it’s definitely the best de-mudder I’ve heard. Pulling out stuff that I sometimes hear but don’t identify as “mud.” Kinda one of those things where you start turning the knob and go “ oh…that does sound better.” And the deesser. Freaking awesome. I also chose Outlaw over bass rider (well, TBF, it was cheaper.) seems to do the job well. I’m gonna have to peruse through all of their plugs. Wow...this does a great job. Most other plugs that claim to De-Mud have obvious pumping, go too far, and/or don't hone in on the right frequency range. This seems to nail it (for my voice anyway) with very little effort. Thanks! Added: bought. |
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Post by drumsound on May 10, 2024 15:13:11 GMT -6
I had never heard of this plugin... Holy shit it works well! At this price I will have to buy it, the demud is much more effective than a Pro-Q with dynamic bands, at least on the few tests I have done. Being a small sound engineer, I work a lot on crappy vocals on crappy mp3 instrumentals, this thing will save me time on these unpleasant projects. Thanks for sharing! Yeah it’s definitely the best de-mudder I’ve heard. Pulling out stuff that I sometimes hear but don’t identify as “mud.” Kinda one of those things where you start turning the knob and go “ oh…that does sound better.” And the deesser. Freaking awesome. I also chose Outlaw over bass rider (well, TBF, it was cheaper.) seems to do the job well. I’m gonna have to peruse through all of their plugs. Tell me about the desser especially. I bought the Waves Sibilance on your recomendation, but lately the stock PT seems to do more of what I want. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 10, 2024 15:46:06 GMT -6
Yeah it’s definitely the best de-mudder I’ve heard. Pulling out stuff that I sometimes hear but don’t identify as “mud.” Kinda one of those things where you start turning the knob and go “ oh…that does sound better.” And the deesser. Freaking awesome. I also chose Outlaw over bass rider (well, TBF, it was cheaper.) seems to do the job well. I’m gonna have to peruse through all of their plugs. Tell me about the desser especially. I bought the Waves Sibilance on your recomendation, but lately the stock PT seems to do more of what I want. I do not endorse any of my picks...lol Yeah Sibilance either works great or not at all. But it's just one knob on this plug. Turn left for less S and right for more. And in the limited instances I tried it, it worked freaking great. |
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Post by spud on May 10, 2024 15:55:47 GMT -6
I opened quite a few projects to test, with all kinds of voice takes (good and bad) and each time the demud works very well! The de-esser too. I find that this plugin provides a good starting point. As a result, I bought it!
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Post by bossanova on May 10, 2024 18:50:55 GMT -6
The developer has a post in the Purple place where he mentions that the action of the compressor was inspired by the Fairchild. He also said that the desser works by detecting and splitting the s sounds and lowering them separately from the body of the vocal. He said that and other functions are why it runs at 47ms latency, because it needs to look ahead for parts of the processing.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 10, 2024 18:52:08 GMT -6
It’s one of the more impressive plugins I’ve used lately.
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Post by spud on May 11, 2024 0:23:36 GMT -6
yes for me too, this one and the P455 from Pulsar Modular. In Vocal Shaper it's mainly because of the demud and the deesser. Every time I "replaced" the Pro-Q with a Vocal Shaper, the vocals sounded much better in the mix, more precise, clearer (without using compression or big EQ moves). The strength of Demud is having pitch tracking. Maybe it will be available in the Pro-Q 4... I'm not a fan of using plugins like this Vocal Shaper, it reinforces the imposter syndrome that lingers in me but it's so effective!
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Post by thehightenor on May 11, 2024 6:53:12 GMT -6
Bought it - thanks for the heads up. Considerably cheaper than your recommendation to buy a Retro STA Level  |
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Post by RealNoob on May 11, 2024 7:45:08 GMT -6
bought it but demud control doesn’t seem to do anything? I can hear a low mid resonance on vocal that never changes when turning the dial?
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Post by Johnkenn on May 11, 2024 8:31:04 GMT -6
It’s worked for everything I’ve used it for.
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Post by bossanova on May 11, 2024 10:05:09 GMT -6
It’s worked for everything I’ve used it for. Same here. There was one vocal recorded in less than ideal conditions where I kept an additional static dip at 300 from Slick EQ, but for most things I tried it on it did a very nice job of less mud/more clarity at around 9 o’clock on the dial. |
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Post by Darren Boling on May 11, 2024 10:52:55 GMT -6
Thanks for the heads up, hadn't heard of this company before. Demoed then bought. A $16 problem solver is always welcomed!
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Post by the other mark williams on May 11, 2024 19:35:11 GMT -6
I'm going to be the one voice who says it's not doing much for me so far. I was trying the demo on a spoken word piece, and the de-mud feature was leaving the VO sounding quite boxy, while the de-esser just wasn't really doing much of anything until it suddenly crushed all esses into "etthhhes". I'm going to keep trying it, but so far it's not doing it for me.
To be fair, I was using it in Final Cut, where the plugin caused a crash four times over the course of about 25 mins. So I need to give it a try in a DAW.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 11, 2024 21:41:26 GMT -6
I'm going to be the one voice who says it's not doing much for me so far. I was trying the demo on a spoken word piece, and the de-mud feature was leaving the VO sounding quite boxy, while the de-esser just wasn't really doing much of anything until it suddenly crushed all esses into "etthhhes". I'm going to keep trying it, but so far it's not doing it for me. To be fair, I was using it in Final Cut, where the plugin caused a crash four times over the course of about 25 mins. So I need to give it a try in a DAW. Im sure there will come a time when it just ain’t the thing…but man, so far, it’s been pretty amazing. I wonder if something about spoken word made it freak out? |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 11, 2024 23:35:50 GMT -6
I'm going to be the one voice who says it's not doing much for me so far. I was trying the demo on a spoken word piece, and the de-mud feature was leaving the VO sounding quite boxy, while the de-esser just wasn't really doing much of anything until it suddenly crushed all esses into "etthhhes". I'm going to keep trying it, but so far it's not doing it for me. To be fair, I was using it in Final Cut, where the plugin caused a crash four times over the course of about 25 mins. So I need to give it a try in a DAW. Im sure there will come a time when it just ain’t the thing…but man, so far, it’s been pretty amazing. I wonder if something about spoken word made it freak out? Yeah, I wonder the same. Still, I'm a little surprised the de-mudder tops out at 360Hz. I think that's why the result sounded boxy to me. I generally think of boxiness living in the 400-600Hz range, but I also still count that as "high mud", since I'm always trying to get rid of the boxiness when it's there. I didn't try Soothe2 on the VO in question, but I suspect it would've handled it well. I do find the idea of this VocalShaper to be compelling - I like the idea of de-mudding and yet also having compression, limiting, basic EQ, de-esser as an all-in-one plugin... |
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Post by bgrotto on May 12, 2024 9:02:51 GMT -6
For the folks not loving it, double check the input level is above the indicated line on the plugins meter. The plug is pretty touchy about getting the right input level, esp wrt the de ess and leveling functionality.
Not saying this will change your opinion per se, but it seems worth mentioning.
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