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Post by Martin John Butler on May 8, 2024 15:40:01 GMT -6
Logic is so straightforward. It's easy to ue with my Apollo X6, and editing is not that complicated. I'm glad I never bothered with Pro Tools, only if I was a studio owner would I need it.
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Post by the other mark williams on May 8, 2024 15:44:39 GMT -6
I am under the impression that Logic cannot create POLY files. (multi-track all in one file, instead of separate track files that must be aligned in the daw.) Is no POLY files still the case with Logic? If you import a polywav file into Logic, it will break it up into a surround format, so it can sort of read a polywav file in a sense (at least to where you can work on the files). But unless this has been addressed in v.11, I don't believe you can create a polywav with Logic. And I agree that this sucks. This is functionality I actually need in my audio-for-picture work, and it's silly that Logic can't do it. (Though to be fair, a lot of other DAWs can't either.) |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 8, 2024 16:10:26 GMT -6
Logic is so straightforward. It's easy to ue with my Apollo X6, and editing is not that complicated. I'm glad I never bothered with Pro Tools, only if I was a studio owner would I need it. Editing is great with Logic. That's one thing I sometimes sorta kinda miss. Everyone else has comp swiping now but Logic's is still a standout. |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 8, 2024 16:17:29 GMT -6
Logic is so straightforward. It's easy to ue with my Apollo X6, and editing is not that complicated. I'm glad I never bothered with Pro Tools, only if I was a studio owner would I need it. Editing is great with Logic. That's one thing I sometimes sorta kinda miss. Everyone else has comp swiping now but Logic's is still a standout. Every DAW has its plusses and minuses, that's for sure. |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 8, 2024 16:53:32 GMT -6
Logic is so straightforward. It's easy to ue with my Apollo X6, and editing is not that complicated. I'm glad I never bothered with Pro Tools, only if I was a studio owner would I need it. Editing is great with Logic. That's one thing I sometimes sorta kinda miss. Everyone else has comp swiping now but Logic's is still a standout. What is comp swiping, I find logic’s comp function very straightforward ? |
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Post by M57 on May 8, 2024 17:01:30 GMT -6
Getting back on topic: I've never experienced any problems with plugins or my interfaces where Logic updates are concerned; of course it's a different story with Major OS updates.
As per usual with Logic, I'm excited about the update, which I believe will be available in mid-May. I'm really interested in how well the "session" AI musicians will work. When it comes to song writing I find Drummer to be a great FAST and easy to use place-holder before I hire a session musician. If the "session" AI musicians are anywhere near as good as Drummer, it will be a game-changer for a lot of folks.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 8, 2024 17:34:57 GMT -6
Editing is great with Logic. That's one thing I sometimes sorta kinda miss. Everyone else has comp swiping now but Logic's is still a standout. What is comp swiping, I find logic’s comp function very straightforward ? Oh, that's comp swiping. Logic started it as far as I know and now everyone has it but Logic's is still great. So yeah, their comp function is awesome and much copied. |
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Post by geoff738 on May 9, 2024 16:26:52 GMT -6
Have they released the full list of what’s in this update. Most of what was announced really doesn’t interest me much I have to say.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by kcatthedog on May 9, 2024 16:49:43 GMT -6
Haven’t seen it, drops next week!
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Post by russellcreekps on May 9, 2024 18:58:37 GMT -6
What is comp swiping, I find logic’s comp function very straightforward ? Oh, that's comp swiping. Logic started it as far as I know and now everyone has it but Logic's is still great. So yeah, their comp function is awesome and much copied. Is Luna doing this yet? That and hardware insert or i/o plug might get me to use it more than Logic. |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 9, 2024 19:42:30 GMT -6
I don’t use Luna but I think the answer is 2 not yets , ua bern working hard on the new fangled idea of hardware inserts for 5 years, apparently it has something to do with using real gear not software: guess that’s what they are having trouble wrapping their heads around?  |
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Post by Dan on May 9, 2024 20:19:23 GMT -6
Terrible marketing. Fix the bugs and illogical workflow. Terrible marketing? Who cares? Even if there's some truth to what you're saying (and I think their marketing is just fine) does it make the product any better or worse? Illlogical workflow? You're inferring that I'm don't think logically because it makes perfect sense to me. Sorry if I'm sounding like a fan boy, because one of the things I like about this site is we just don't go there. Now on the other hand, if you're a Logic user and you're frustrated with the product, then I apologize, but honestly, you're just sounding like a hater to me. I used logic until about 2018/2019 or so when I switched full over to reaper. Logic is good for somethings and a pita for others. It still had major bugs when I last checked a few months ago. I like it better for recording and comping than reaper but prefer reaper for all post production not involving drum warping when I prefer cubase. Also all of your logic sessions that were broken and you manually aligned by hand using delays like the eventide are now broken until you delete them and correct the current bugs. It tends to desynch eventually still. Reaper sessions are still perfect even after they changed the pdc for less latency. I still had some sidechain issues a while back but now those appear to be fixed in reaper. I don’t even want to know for the pro tools hybrid engine. I prefer mixing in reaper. |
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Post by theshea on May 9, 2024 23:31:48 GMT -6
Oh, that's comp swiping. Logic started it as far as I know and now everyone has it but Logic's is still great. So yeah, their comp function is awesome and much copied. Is Luna doing this yet? That and hardware insert or i/o plug might get me to use it more than Logic. and custom shortcuts! |
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Post by svart on May 10, 2024 7:50:39 GMT -6
Polywav? Never heard of it. Sounds like a way to always have compatibility issues with other DAWs. I just import a block of consolidated files and snap them to the marker in Reaper. Then I can just grab and move them to the places in my template I want them. Takes a few minutes and I don't have to work in someone else's template. I never have issues lining the files up quickly unless someone screwed up the consolidation.
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Post by Shadowk on May 10, 2024 9:05:52 GMT -6
Pro’s I love the stock plugs in Logic. For me I could happily use them to make music. Also it took a petition but they fixed most of the delay comp bugs etc. Also it has a proper hw I/o plug.
Con’s weirdly I really struggled with midi editing compared to cubase and pro tools. Also ideally need to be on Sonoma to get the best out of it. Logic is still on my laptop, when carbon supports the latest mac os I might give it another go.
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Post by ericn on May 10, 2024 9:12:20 GMT -6
Ah, why Pro tools: doesn’t that answer the question: audio software for pros? It should just be Tools... haha. A better description of the people who sell it. Hey Now in a former life that would be me😁 |
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Post by Shadowk on May 10, 2024 9:16:11 GMT -6
Terrible marketing? Who cares? Even if there's some truth to what you're saying (and I think their marketing is just fine) does it make the product any better or worse? Illlogical workflow? You're inferring that I'm don't think logically because it makes perfect sense to me. Sorry if I'm sounding like a fan boy, because one of the things I like about this site is we just don't go there. Now on the other hand, if you're a Logic user and you're frustrated with the product, then I apologize, but honestly, you're just sounding like a hater to me. I used logic until about 2018/2019 or so when I switched full over to reaper. Logic is good for somethings and a pita for others. It still had major bugs when I last checked a few months ago. I like it better for recording and comping than reaper but prefer reaper for all post production not involving drum warping when I prefer cubase. Also all of your logic sessions that were broken and you manually aligned by hand using delays like the eventide are now broken until you delete them and correct the current bugs. It tends to desynch eventually still. Reaper sessions are still perfect even after they changed the pdc for less latency. I still had some sidechain issues a while back but now those appear to be fixed in reaper. I don’t even want to know for the pro tools hybrid engine. I prefer mixing in reaper. That’s a saw subject for me but the answer seems to be work in a contrary way completely opposite to what mixers and other daws do. Even then there’s no guarantee but it certainly does help.Mixing doesn’t bother me too much and I’m fine with most daws for that as the algorithm is quite simple, delay everything as long as your worst chain. Tracking is a pita.. |
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Post by Ward on May 10, 2024 9:24:36 GMT -6
Logic has been my 'side piece' to Pro Tools since I bought version 2.5 from eMagic back in the 90s!
This looks extremely intriguing (and it's free for current users!). . . maybe it will move up from side-piece to mistress?
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Post by Ward on May 10, 2024 9:28:46 GMT -6
Ah, why Pro tools: doesn’t that answer the question: audio software for pros? It should just be Tools... haha. A better description of the people who sell it. I have a good friend who calls PT Poor Tools. |
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Post by Shadowk on May 10, 2024 9:30:47 GMT -6
It should just be Tools... haha. A better description of the people who sell it. I have a good friend who calls PT Poor Tools. Well tell them to give me some money cause their rigs cost a fortune. Yes, it’s a play on words. Also I find it hard to disagree sometimes. |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 10, 2024 11:46:27 GMT -6
Polywav? Never heard of it. Sounds like a way to always have compatibility issues with other DAWs. I just import a block of consolidated files and snap them to the marker in Reaper. Then I can just grab and move them to the places in my template I want them. Takes a few minutes and I don't have to work in someone else's template. I never have issues lining the files up quickly unless someone screwed up the consolidation. Polywav files are the standard in NLEs for video editing. It actually is very convenient there. If you record, say, a boom mic and a lav mic during an interview, the two files are packaged together so you can easily switch between them (or blend them), but they never can accidentally slip from one another. In a way, it's kind of like recording a stereo file vs. two mono files. Except a polywav can contain more than two channels. I do wish that all DAWs supported it, though, because audio editing is still much easier in DAWs than in NLEs. I'm pretty sure Reaper supports it. I mean, Reaper supports like everything. I gotta really give it an honest try someday. You still using it, svart? |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 10, 2024 11:47:19 GMT -6
It should just be Tools... haha. A better description of the people who sell it. Hey Now in a former life that would be me😁 Haha... I meant AVID themselves and their overlords! |
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Post by ericn on May 10, 2024 11:57:12 GMT -6
Hey Now in a former life that would be me😁 Haha... I meant AVID themselves and their overlords! I’ll let you in on a dirty secret; in private after a couple of beers they are actually the most critical of Avid. Yeah publicly they sound like they drink the Avid Kool Aid, but private it’s very different. That’s been everyone from sales guy to VP level. |
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Post by svart on May 10, 2024 12:46:01 GMT -6
Polywav? Never heard of it. Sounds like a way to always have compatibility issues with other DAWs. I just import a block of consolidated files and snap them to the marker in Reaper. Then I can just grab and move them to the places in my template I want them. Takes a few minutes and I don't have to work in someone else's template. I never have issues lining the files up quickly unless someone screwed up the consolidation. Polywav files are the standard in NLEs for video editing. It actually is very convenient there. If you record, say, a boom mic and a lav mic during an interview, the two files are packaged together so you can easily switch between them (or blend them), but they never can accidentally slip from one another. In a way, it's kind of like recording a stereo file vs. two mono files. Except a polywav can contain more than two channels. I do wish that all DAWs supported it, though, because audio editing is still much easier in DAWs than in NLEs. I'm pretty sure Reaper supports it. I mean, Reaper supports like everything. I gotta really give it an honest try someday. You still using it, svart? Oh yeah. Love it more than ever now. I've branched out and started using a handful of the more advanced (for me) features and I just can't see how any other DAW can even compare in features. Anyway, the video editing I've done, I always have to unlock the audio tracks and line them up manually because nobody ever checks phase on boom/lav mic.. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 10, 2024 12:58:32 GMT -6
Haha... I meant AVID themselves and their overlords! I’ll let you in on a dirty secret; in private after a couple of beers they are actually the most critical of Avid. Yeah publicly they sound like they drink the Avid Kool Aid, but private it’s very different. That’s been everyone from sales guy to VP level. Yeah, that checks out. Sadly I'm not surprised. |
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