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Post by christopher on May 7, 2024 10:34:47 GMT -6
You can’t just throw around terms like “long parallel aux chain” and not give us the details! Haha, it’s just such a PIA! H3000 and Bob Clearmountain would be the way to go.. here is sort of the idea using routed folders in Reaper. Should work in PT: folder1- Early reflections .. inside are 2 tracks, panned hard left right. Like maybe Sunset studio A on left, Studio C on right. folder2- Longer decay .. again 2 tracks, Panned LR, maybe a plugin chamber on one side, IR hall on the other. Folder3 delays- similar thing, might only need one track for stereo delay but the folder means you can add tracks for each tap and put effects on each.. so you could do really weird things like stereo plate delay on tap 5 for example. - Make the control track: name it FX Send.. This one will control the routing to each of the tracks, and where you dial your blend. That way you send vocal to this and all the routing is done. Make sure it’s only feeding the fx tracks and mute its own routing to parent/master track. - Finally make a NEW track folder that is the Daddy parent to all of them. Everything goes inside it. This folder is what you can save as a track template and make presets. Ok so this the setup.. then you start adding modulation and pitch and dynamics and EQ, blending things wet/dry. Takes a long time and eventually you find things worth saving: Save As track template.. You can go crazy and waste a lot of time. For me I used all this just to create a barely audible “ambiance”.. that honestly probably isn’t better than these plugins. Took me like a week of adjusting it. You can do things like feed folder 1 into folder 2.. or add effects to each track. The skies the limit. The clock flies by. |
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Post by tasteliketape on May 7, 2024 10:50:46 GMT -6
I have a very early yellow button H3000 . It’s. Sounds Dirty ,funky, and very outdated! I f’n love it ! It doesn’t sound like a plugin by the way
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Post by notneeson on May 7, 2024 13:59:20 GMT -6
I have some spacey H3000 guitar on what will be my next LP.
I can get cool sounds with plugins, but not that sound.
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Post by Dan on May 7, 2024 16:36:51 GMT -6
One of the rooms I work out of regularly has one and for years I never patched into it, assuming Microshift did the job well enough.... boy was I wrong! The first time I sent a vocal to it, it was like "OHHHHHHHHH... I get it. That's THAT sound." Yes, that is my exact experience with the real thing, it sounds larger than life. First time I heard my voice through it was a realization for sure. No plugin is going to touch it I am afraid. they would have to make a new one that sounds larger than life to do something similar. the h9 pedal sounds sick. the 9000 series plugins sound sick and way better than the old h3000 factory and the retro ported eventide plugs.
just porting over the algorithms to a modern cpu won't sound the same. you can't get the dark tone with the lex plugs even with all the lofi options enabled in the relab, it's not the same. they were made to sound good on the primitive hardware. for reverbs, you'd have to change everything to even get a similar sized space or depth or tone with all the truncation and noise in the tails.
there are good fx plugs but the ones i enjoy do not sound exactly like the hardware. like i can use megaverb instead of midiverb but it's not the same but it's better than any simple port of the midiverb ii (which has been made btw a few times). i can get tai chi to do more of what I want from a dark reverb than any of the lexicon pcm natives or ported over / reverse engineered algorithms. i'm generally using that and the tsar now. u-he colour copy is an amazing delay too. so is the relab sonsig rev-a for something cleaner but i don't really end up using the lofi options on it. the clean one sounds way better than the lx480 to me.
the big sky plugin is awesome and cooler than the og pedal because you don't have to set it a certain way to not be nasty. you can filter it before and after as a send instead of just a pedal in a chain, which would be like using it as an insert.
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Post by recordingengineer on May 7, 2024 17:16:44 GMT -6
We have an H9000 at the studio. I set it up to be normalled to the Duality. It just sits there. I should play with it, but it seems nothing about it is plug-n-play. I really should read through the manual while playing with it. Still haven’t after a number of years.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on May 7, 2024 21:59:56 GMT -6
Have an original that Studio Electronics serviced several years ago. Understand the "why can't" on the emulation thing but when electrons get involved, it's just different. I wouldn't say better, but just different in a way that our ears are pleased by the hardware.
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Post by sentientsound on May 9, 2024 10:51:23 GMT -6
I have a non-functioning Orville here, it always bums me out that nothing else seems to do dynamic multieffect treatments so satisfyingly as those earlier Eventide boxes.
I think I prefer the tone and dual engines of the Orville over original H3000s actually.
The H3000 reverb sounds are certainly charming though, definitely on par with the microshift, chorusing, and multi-tap delays they're known for.
Meanwhile I'm checking out the mk II H3000 plugin.
It sounds noticeably better to me than the older version with a better sense of envelopment and more distinct tone that blends with less effort into a mix.
Pity it doesn't include any multi-shift algorithms.
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