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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 8:57:28 GMT -6
As many know, I have the Dynaudio LYD48 monitors and really like them a lot. They are the best monitors I've used. Well, I've always wondered about the Core 59 monitors and wondered how much better they might be than the LYD48. The two things that put me off were the size and the cost. I wondered if they might be too big for my 9.5' x 19' mixing room. I honestly don't have any real complaints about the LYD48's. It's more just knowing there may be something a bit better that might help me make decisions quicker.
I've done research about them for over a year. More than once, I've had them in a cart to buy but just didn't go through with it. The price in the US is roughly $3150 per speaker. I was messing about this morning (more research) and found that Thomann has them for $2399. That makes it a lot easier to pull the trigger.
For those that have worked with the Core 59, is it too big for my mixing room?
Any regrets?
Danny wrote a whole lot about them and was a great help. Anyone else with experience with the Core 59.
PS: I'm only interested in the Core 59 vs LYD48. Don't confuse me with options. I love the sound of Dynaudio speakers. That's my only option.
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Post by drbill on Apr 26, 2024 9:25:45 GMT -6
Talk you out of it??
Don't do it. They are going on 50% off sale soon. For real.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 9:58:14 GMT -6
Talk you out of it?? Don't do it. They are going on 50% off sale soon. For real. Bill, why are you 2 minutes too late? Are you serious about 50% off soon? This is making me nauseous... Here, I thought I found an incredible deal. |
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Post by Dan on Apr 26, 2024 10:20:25 GMT -6
Current Dynaudio distribution sucks and they’re not able to support what remains of the “pro” market here in the US. I tried to buy the core 7s a couple of years back and was unable to from multiple retailers and hifi dealers. Check out ATC, Genelec, and Focal.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 10:25:09 GMT -6
Hey Dan,
I already placed the order with Thomann, who said they will arrive in Chicago next Wednesday. I'm a super huge fan of Dynaudio monitors. The Core 59 was really the only monitor I was interested in. I love the LYD48, but if I get a deeper and tighter low-end from the Core 59, I will be completely happy. The thought that the price would drop after I just bought them is unsettling, but I can always return them within 30 days.
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Post by copperx on Apr 26, 2024 10:36:49 GMT -6
What's the story behind the 50% price drop? Will that also apply to the LYD48s?
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 10:41:41 GMT -6
I sent a note to multiple retail reps I use. No one responded yet. Would be good to know so I can cancel this order if it's true.
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Post by Dan on Apr 26, 2024 10:49:44 GMT -6
Hey Dan, I already placed the order with Thomann, who said they will arrive in Chicago next Wednesday. I'm a super huge fan of Dynaudio monitors. The Core 59 was really the only monitor I was interested in. I love the LYD48, but if I get a deeper and tighter low-end from the Core 59, I will be completely happy. The thought that the price would drop after I just bought them is unsettling, but I can always return them within 30 days. Of course they’ll probably be better (Lyds were not nearly as good as bm and m Dynaudios ime) but so much of the low end is room and system dependent and translation is more about technique and knowing what works for many sounds over a car, pa, cheap sub, expensive sub, than knowing what it really sounds like, which helps a lot but you need a lot of references so you might want to keep your Lyd 48 around or get some garbage bass playback system. Usually the producer cannot hear it accurately unless they have very expensive subs without any bullshit ports, limiters, or sliding high pass filters. Often they just want to keep the timbre of their playback system (often a car, crappy headphones, turd fart sub or hyper limited near field woofers) distorting and want to keep that on bigger systems like a really well set up techno club pa or purpose built modern post studio rather than what it really sounds like. So you need to distort it, filter it, eq it to match what they heard on their inaccurate playback system. And when you need to spend thousands to get just accurate low mids in monitors, accurate bass is really hard. Most of them are producing on stuff that rings like a drum and most of what it recommended by the tech bros over at audio science review is one note bass over limited crap like the Genelecs and Neumanns without paired subs. Talk about Headroom limited |
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 26, 2024 10:52:34 GMT -6
Hey Dan, I already placed the order with Thomann, who said they will arrive in Chicago next Wednesday. I'm a super huge fan of Dynaudio monitors. The Core 59 was really the only monitor I was interested in. I love the LYD48, but if I get a deeper and tighter low-end from the Core 59, I will be completely happy. The thought that the price would drop after I just bought them is unsettling, but I can always return them within 30 days. UK dealer SX Pro sxpro.co.uk/product/dynaudio-core-59-/?srsltid=AfmBOoqsEvo4uurFGlVtnhRDZoIXQqOZsLI4VBC6ndpntGZ3orD6b8dEDlQSeems to be a similar price to Thomann. Do you pay import duty? |
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 11:03:13 GMT -6
Hey Dan, I already placed the order with Thomann, who said they will arrive in Chicago next Wednesday. I'm a super huge fan of Dynaudio monitors. The Core 59 was really the only monitor I was interested in. I love the LYD48, but if I get a deeper and tighter low-end from the Core 59, I will be completely happy. The thought that the price would drop after I just bought them is unsettling, but I can always return them within 30 days. UK dealer SX Pro sxpro.co.uk/product/dynaudio-core-59-/?srsltid=AfmBOoqsEvo4uurFGlVtnhRDZoIXQqOZsLI4VBC6ndpntGZ3orD6b8dEDlQSeems to be a similar price to Thomann. Do you pay import duty? I had totally forgot about customs fees. From the calculations on the US customs site, it could be 6.5%. Still cheaper than any other retailer I've found so far. BTW: One retailer did get back to me and said that the 50% off the Core series is a rumor. They just got the current April pricing from Dynaudio. It has not changed. Who know what to believe anymore. Hopefully, these will just work out and I can get back to stressing over which mic I need to add to my collection. (53 and counting) |
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 26, 2024 11:14:24 GMT -6
I had totally forgot about customs fees. From the calculations on the US customs site, it could be 6.5%. Still cheaper than any other retailer I've found so far. BTW: One retailer did get back to me and said that the 50% off the Core series is a rumor. They just got the current April pricing from Dynaudio. It has not changed. Who know what to believe anymore. Hopefully, these will just work out and I can get back to stressing over which mic I need to add to my collection. (53 and counting) I'll make you feel better. If I buy a product from the USA it costs me 30% more with all the added fees I have to pay! |
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 11:15:54 GMT -6
Thanks for making it seem almost palatable...:-)
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Post by ragan on Apr 26, 2024 11:20:21 GMT -6
drbill did you get your 50% off info from the rumor mill or some better source?
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 26, 2024 12:30:59 GMT -6
A bird in hand: sounds to me like you got a killer deal and what you wanted: be happy to have the opportunity to try them IN YOUR ROOM vs the 48’s and then decide: it doesn’t get better, ya done good !  |
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Post by ragan on Apr 26, 2024 14:21:26 GMT -6
I love the LYD-48. I’m not sure I’ll ever move to something else. But if the Core 59 were sort of ‘more of that’ and I felt like spending a lot more on monitors, that’s where I’d look.
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Post by drbill on Apr 26, 2024 14:29:08 GMT -6
I'm SOOOOooooo sorry, and I must apologize. I'm not sure where my smiley went. It was all meant in jest - as an effort to help mcirish with his request to dissuade him from purchasing what is no doubt an expensive expenditure. Again, apologies for anyone who went scrambling looking for "deals". <<peace>>> |
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 14:30:31 GMT -6
You had me going Bill. Thanks for stopping and retarting my heart. "CLEAR!"
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 26, 2024 14:44:39 GMT -6
You had me going Bill. Thanks for stopping and retarting my heart. "CLEAR!" lol …. Enjoy your new purchase! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 26, 2024 15:06:34 GMT -6
I think what Dr Bill meant was that rgo’ers can buy any of his gear for a big discount? |
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 18:10:33 GMT -6
Thanks Danny,
I am a bit nervous about them. Their depth will eat up another 4" of studio space but I want to give them a fair shot. I probably should have bought locally so returning them would be easier.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 27, 2024 6:47:38 GMT -6
The drama continues. I ended up cancelling the order with Thomann. It may have worked out perfect but if it didn't, I'd lose a lot of money trying to return them. So... the hunt is back on to find a pair in the US for a good price.
Done. Found a demo pair at Sweetwater. I bought them and will have them on Tuesday.
I will make a full report on my thoughts.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 27, 2024 7:05:36 GMT -6
A good move international shipping on big items ain’t cheap and there is always the possibility of damage and loss: fun wow  |
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Post by Shadowk on Apr 27, 2024 8:28:27 GMT -6
I don't half ramble on sometimes  , so here's the cliff note pertinent info version as a general discussion point. > They can be boundary loaded, select "wall" or "corner" on the DSP settings. > You can get away with a 1.2M listening distance which is pretty cool for the size of them. > They don't like my oversized desk and with your dimensions ARC or some correction will most likely be necessary, I'm nearly getting a 30Hz response and my room doesn't like it at all. > As Dan pointed at the downside to expensive super low distortion big bass monitors IME is they translate well to high dynamic range devices (2.1 systems, bose style premium car systems, studio headphones, even Iphones). On some less than ideal devices it can sound off, so a grot box or reference checks are recommended until you get used to them. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is (that caught me out recently). > The LYD's as you know are great but when tested against the Core's though they come off a bit boxy, small, LMF muddy and lacking in terms of mid range clarity. So the Core's are a lot better but they cost over double so they damn well should be better. EQ decisions are easy for me as they are just pin point accurate in the mid range. > They're dry and the phantom presentation is quite segmented. IMO it takes some getting used to and I can certainly see why some wouldn't like it but after a while I thought it was pretty cool. > They can take a lot of SPL and additional bass which is cool for client listening or general fun. > I wouldn't be nervous, I agree with Svart on this monitor thing. At the KH310 range or above a lot of it is down to preference and clear bass extension. I could work with any of them, I just like the Dyn's. > Have fun testing them out and I'm looking forward to your review. |
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Post by mcirish on Apr 28, 2024 11:40:51 GMT -6
Can someone with the Core 59 give be a couple dimensions? I will be standing them up so the tweeter is on top. I need to know the distance from the bottom of the speaker to the midpoint between the midrange driver and the tweeter. That is supposed to be the ear height so I'm try to make some stands so I'm ready when they arrive.
Thanks,
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Post by mcirish on Apr 28, 2024 11:43:07 GMT -6
I love the LYD-48. I’m not sure I’ll ever move to something else. But if the Core 59 were sort of ‘more of that’ and I felt like spending a lot more on monitors, that’s where I’d look. I'm in the exact same position. I didn't think I would get anything other than the LYD 48, but the Core 59 kind of got me interested in finding out if they would work in my studio. I'm in the NW suburbs of Chicago, in case you wanted a listen for yourself. |
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