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Post by chessparov on Apr 21, 2024 14:11:32 GMT -6
Other than DrBill.  (I keed you bp)  A couple of the Local Pro Musicians... Want me to start playing Percussion onstage. Am thinking starting with Shakers (more versatile?). For Latin Rock/Jazz/Soul/etc. Maybe the LP "Blue" shakers (medium toned). For Live. Guessing "soft" is too soft usually with amplified instruments going on? Thanks! Chris P.S. Maybe "Professor" Dan could loan me his Primo 47? I PROMISE to be careful! What could ever go wrong? |
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Post by drbill on Apr 21, 2024 14:41:24 GMT -6
Other than DrBill. (I keed you bp) A couple of the Local Pro Musicians... Want me to start playing Percussion onstage. OK, I'm out. But just one thought first,,,,,,,, Learn to count to 4 first.  |
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Post by ab101 on Apr 21, 2024 14:55:15 GMT -6
I have about 100 shakers. My fave is an Avocado shaker! Lp is great. Go to a guitar center or a drum shop and try a bunch. It is not only the sound, but how it fits your hand and playing style.
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 21, 2024 15:13:54 GMT -6
Go to a proper drum shop and try out a bunch of random stuff. Don’t overthink it, just buy what sounds nice to your ear.
The best sounding shakers/tambourines/maracas etc that I’ve heard are often hand made gizmos…just cheaply put together assortments of rattling parts lol.
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Post by chessparov on Apr 21, 2024 15:35:48 GMT -6
Other than DrBill. (I keed you bp) A couple of the Local Pro Musicians... Want me to start playing Percussion onstage. OK, I'm out. But just one thought first,,,,,,,, Learn to count to 4 first. Shane-ahem-Dr. Bill... "Coooommmme Baaack" (Maybe I'll record one on my 219 ) Chris P.S. Avocado? Cool! |
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Post by aremos on Apr 21, 2024 15:36:32 GMT -6
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Post by chessparov on Apr 21, 2024 15:37:11 GMT -6
No just EP. Only 3 songs. Not 4. BTW were Maracas invented in... Caracas? |
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Post by bgrotto on Apr 21, 2024 15:40:22 GMT -6
Go to a music shop and play all the shakers they have, at a variety of tempos. Listen for what sounds good, but (esp for live) look for what FEELS best to play. The weight distribution, bead density, etc all have massive impacts on playability, and unless you're a trained percussionist, you'll lack the versatility to accommodate the idiosyncrasies of the each individual instrument. Far better to just find the ones that are naturally easy to play. I suspect you'll find one for slow tempos, and another (or possibly two) for medium and faster tempos.
This will mean compromising a bit on sonics, most likely, but the best shaker sound in the world doesn't mean squat if you can't play it in time.
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Post by bgrotto on Apr 21, 2024 15:42:38 GMT -6
BTW - THIS TYPE is the one I find easiest to play, and they generally sound good in most contexts, especially medium and faster tempos. I'll sometimes augment their character by holding a smaller egg in my hand while I play, if I need more complexity in the sound. |
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Post by RealNoob on Apr 21, 2024 15:53:50 GMT -6
Variety, variety, variety. The percussionists that have blessed me the most have about 10 shakers of different sizes, wall material, etc.
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 21, 2024 16:23:39 GMT -6
BTW - THIS TYPE is the one I find easiest to play, and they generally sound good in most contexts, especially medium and faster tempos. I'll sometimes augment their character by holding a smaller egg in my hand while I play, if I need more complexity in the sound. +1 to that! I own the same shaker, it’s great for a novice like me! |
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Post by drumsound on Apr 21, 2024 17:44:19 GMT -6
Shakers aren't expensive, so you should get a few things. Maracas have a different vibe, but cool. Other shakers like the standard LP metal tube, some caxixi, and a couple of eggs will get you going and have a few things to play with.
A piano player I went to school with used to keep an egg shaker in his can, and he would play it along with music to work on his time, in general. I assume in LA you're often in the car, so you might consider that, too.
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Post by doubledog on Apr 21, 2024 19:19:15 GMT -6
another vote for eggs. I have a set that Meinl (still thankfully) sells. It has 4 different weights for $10. A lot of times I will hold one or 2 or even 3 different shakers when recording a track - ah, hell, use them all - just depends on the sound I want, light, heavy, somewhere in between? Anyway, worth picking that set up. But if you are on stage playing live, you may need something louder. Those LP yellow maracas will really cut through a band (if you need that) and the LP large session shaker is good for louder stuff (but also records well).
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Post by chessparov on Apr 21, 2024 23:22:57 GMT -6
Added a couple of earlier intended "likes". Guess the Internet where I was at... Had connection problems earlier. Anyway... To start out IMHO the Luis Conte "Blue"/Medium tone pair. That way I can just use one for lower volume. Deeper thing than I imagined. Nothing new! Chris |
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Post by miscreantrecords on Apr 21, 2024 23:53:25 GMT -6
Don't overthink it Chess! Why not snag both a shaker and tambourine upfront as they are reasonably priced and will cover a ton of ground. Most any old shaker should do.
Get to shakin' and enjoying yourself. You'll kill it right away.
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Post by miscreantrecords on Apr 21, 2024 23:56:00 GMT -6
A piano player I went to school with used to keep an egg shaker in his can, and he would play it along with music to work on his time, in general. I assume in LA you're often in the car, so you might consider that, too. Damn that's a really interesting idea I've never attempted. I'm definitely going to have to give that a try! |
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2024 10:21:36 GMT -6
Shakers? My double barreled LP is my favorite, but I also love those cheap $2 Egg Shakers. Maracas sound like paint rattle cans. The big yellow LP Maracas/shakers are pretty go for fast continuous stuff. Cabasa is also a must!
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Post by Mister Chase on Apr 22, 2024 10:32:51 GMT -6
Also make sure to buy a vibraslap no matter what.
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Post by doubledog on Apr 22, 2024 13:31:23 GMT -6
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Post by chessparov on Apr 22, 2024 14:32:18 GMT -6
Also make sure to buy a vibraslap no matter what. I got Vibraslapped in the face, on my last trip onstage. Ended up with a case of serious Percussion*. The arriving EMT's treated the Perps instead. With free shots! I tell ya. No respect. Chris *Shakers/Maracas/Rain Stick/You name it. |
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2024 15:05:50 GMT -6
Also make sure to buy a vibraslap no matter what. I got Vibraslapped in the face, on my last trip onstage. Ended up with a case of serious Percussion*. The arriving EMT's treated the Perps instead. With free shots! I tell ya. No respect. Chris *Shakers/Maracas/Rain Stick/You name it. Did you mic this with an RE20 or an M88 ? |
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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on Apr 22, 2024 17:50:49 GMT -6
As a drummer, I have a ton of shakers and percussion things. You just accumulate that stuff. I will give a big shaker shout-out to Index Drums. I have a lot of their shakers. Maybe 15? They have a bunch of great options for loudness or sonic texture, and they're usually made out of old school beer cans or spray paint cans. Perhaps they aren't the most durable shakers for continual gigging and general heavy-duty touring, but if you're halfway careful, they're totally solid. Here are two of my current favorite. A Natty Boh for my Baltimore roots, and a PBR, for my classy roots.
I also have a Maryland can, and a Jim Palmer RC Cola can, among the many others.
If you're stuck playing the shaker, at least let the crowd wonder "wait, is that guy up there shaking a can of Schlitz? How is that possible? Do they serve Schlitz here?" Suddenly, you're the center of attention. That's right when you hit em with a killer maraca solo and show up the singer.
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Post by drumsound on Apr 22, 2024 17:55:08 GMT -6
I got Vibraslapped in the face, on my last trip onstage. Ended up with a case of serious Percussion*. The arriving EMT's treated the Perps instead. With free shots! I tell ya. No respect. Chris *Shakers/Maracas/Rain Stick/You name it. Did you mic this with an RE20 or an M88 ? 635A |
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Post by chessparov on Apr 22, 2024 19:03:57 GMT -6
As a drummer, I have a ton of shakers and percussion things. You just accumulate that stuff. I will give a big shaker shout-out to Index Drums. I have a lot of their shakers. Maybe 15? They have a bunch of great options for loudness or sonic texture, and they're usually made out of old school beer cans or spray paint cans. Perhaps they aren't the most durable shakers for continual gigging and general heavy-duty touring, but if you're halfway careful, they're totally solid. Here are two of my current favorite. A Natty Boh for my Baltimore roots, and a PBR, for my classy roots.
I also have a Maryland can, and a Jim Palmer RC Cola can, among the many others.
If you're stuck playing the shaker, at least let the crowd wonder "wait, is that guy up there shaking a can of Schlitz? How is that possible? Do they serve Schlitz here?" Suddenly, you're the center of attention. That's right when you hit em with a killer maraca solo and show up the singer.
Great! Uh oh. Sometimes... I'm the Singer. Beer can Shaker idea is fantastic!! (Maybe I can be "Dr. Pepper" once in a while too) |
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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on Apr 22, 2024 19:05:38 GMT -6
Great! Uh oh. Sometimes... I'm the Singer. Ah, well then. I guess you can have your cake AND eat it too. The singers get all the breaks... |
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