spud
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Post by spud on Apr 17, 2024 15:00:38 GMT -6
After seeing this on the purple site, I thought it was a simple copy of the Black Salt Audio Silencer. This is partly true but I find that we get better results with deBleed. Someone mentioned that Silencer eats transients, that's true and deBleed doesn't. On the other hand, the Ghost function simply does not work. The intro price is ridiculous, I'll take it. thehomerecordings.com/thr-debleed/ |
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Post by yewtreemagic on Apr 18, 2024 7:24:21 GMT -6
The on-site audio demos do seem to be very effective.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 18, 2024 13:10:15 GMT -6
Seems kind of interesting. I use Silencer a lot but it's not perfect. I might check this out as the price is very fair.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 18, 2024 17:43:50 GMT -6
Bought it. I have some drum mixing to do and will give this a shot
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spud
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Post by spud on Apr 18, 2024 23:05:07 GMT -6
let us know, I haven't bought it yet but I will do so in the coming days, the intro price ends on the 23rd.I did a few more quick tests last night, and the result seems more natural to me, but I've only tested it on one drum take for the moment.
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Post by notneeson on Apr 24, 2024 17:14:13 GMT -6
I bought it, it was a little weird on brush work/snare bottom. Seemed to have more artifact than Silencer, which I know I probably need to buy. Almost like it changed the phase relationship with snare top. So I took it off Bottom but did use it on bass drum.
Maybe I need to try it on the session I was using Silencer on as more of a proper comparison.
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Post by svart on Apr 26, 2024 6:33:36 GMT -6
So I took the plunge with this for everyone. I'm a sucker for trying to find magical/mythical gates.
Anyway, it's roughly the same thing as Silencer. It has mostly the same controls but adds a HOLD control. It even looks mostly the same, GUI-wise.
So I was able to set up Silencer and DeBleed on a pretty noisy snare and then A/B them.
Honestly, they sound mostly the same. Setting them to the same settings does not result in the same sound, but you can tweak a few knobs and get mostly similar amounts of bleed through them. I don't think either one worked better than the other. I think they both resulted in similar amounts of bleed or choked snare sound.
I can't see needing both. Pick one or the other and you'll never miss the one you didn't buy.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 26, 2024 7:50:56 GMT -6
Though I bought deBleed (for GAS reasons) I still haven't even tried it. I seriously have a purchasing problem. I already have so many plugins that "I had to buy" and I haven't even used them. Have you ever gone to purchase a new plugin only to find that you already purchased it during the last sale, yet never used it? That's my issue. I use Silencer on drums, mostly on the toms. I go pretty light on snare. Maybe I will get a chance to finally play with deBleed in the next few days.
I one way, hardware wins. After I get hardware, it's always in front of me and always gets used (or gets sold). I don't tend to do endless searching for the best hardware 1176, but I do that with plugins. How many can I possibly need? Obviously... one more.
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Post by notneeson on Apr 26, 2024 8:28:48 GMT -6
So I took the plunge with this for everyone. I'm a sucker for trying to find magical/mythical gates. Anyway, it's roughly the same thing as Silencer. It has mostly the same controls but adds a HOLD control. It even looks mostly the same, GUI-wise. So I was able to set up Silencer and DeBleed on a pretty noisy snare and then A/B them. Honestly, they sound mostly the same. Setting them to the same settings does not result in the same sound, but you can tweak a few knobs and get mostly similar amounts of bleed through them. I don't think either one worked better than the other. I think they both resulted in similar amounts of bleed or choked snare sound. I can't see needing both. Pick one or the other and you'll never miss the one you didn't buy. This is the hope, just dumb of me to buy the one I hadn’t demoed just to save $10. |
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Post by svart on Apr 26, 2024 8:45:01 GMT -6
Though I bought deBleed (for GAS reasons) I still haven't even tried it. I seriously have a purchasing problem. I already have so many plugins that "I had to buy" and I haven't even used them. Have you ever gone to purchase a new plugin only to find that you already purchased it during the last sale, yet never used it? That's my issue. I use Silencer on drums, mostly on the toms. I go pretty light on snare. Maybe I will get a chance to finally play with deBleed in the next few days. I one way, hardware wins. After I get hardware, it's always in front of me and always gets used (or gets sold). I don't tend to do endless searching for the best hardware 1176, but I do that with plugins. How many can I possibly need? Obviously... one more. Can't say I've tried to buy two of the same exact thing, but I have been guilty of buying multiples of the same style, I.E., Waves SSL channel and then SSL Native, etc.. And once the GAS is over, I can't really tell the difference. The absolute settings might be different, but overall they do the same things. |
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Post by svart on Apr 26, 2024 8:48:29 GMT -6
And while this was "cheap enough to try", it's a little discouraging that this is how the plugin industry is these days. I have probably 50+ plugs I've bought over the years and stopped using. Some of them were expensive and now virtually worthless and not really re-sellable without a lot of effort and discounting.
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Post by mcirish on Jun 6, 2024 8:43:47 GMT -6
They came out with an update that adds lookahead. I haven't tried it yet, but this is a step in the right direction.
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Post by Dan on Jun 6, 2024 9:37:27 GMT -6
Oxford Drum Gate is still the king for me. Oxford Dynamics as a noise gate too.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2024 9:44:24 GMT -6
After seeing this on the purple site, I thought it was a simple copy of the Black Salt Audio Silencer. This is partly true but I find that we get better results with deBleed. Someone mentioned that Silencer eats transients, that's true and deBleed doesn't. On the other hand, the Ghost function simply does not work. The intro price is ridiculous, I'll take it. thehomerecordings.com/thr-debleed/I can’t get silencer to work without shit getting wonky. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2024 9:46:49 GMT -6
And while this was "cheap enough to try", it's a little discouraging that this is how the plugin industry is these days. I have probably 50+ plugs I've bought over the years and stopped using. Some of them were expensive and now virtually worthless and not really re-sellable without a lot of effort and discounting. I saw UA has a deal on a bundle for $299 that I probably paid about $2k for. I don’t know what their strategy is, but it has caused me to value them less and have much less interest in them. It’s just turned me off. Maybe that’s not fair, but that’s been my visceral reaction. No way for them to go back now. Edited to add: hey - I’m excited plug-ins are cheaper…absolutely. It’s just me and a whole lot of other people wish we would have gotten all our stuff for $1000 instead of $10,000. I get it…this is just the way things go, but me losing interest because of it is also just the way things go. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2024 10:31:34 GMT -6
And while this was "cheap enough to try", it's a little discouraging that this is how the plugin industry is these days. I have probably 50+ plugs I've bought over the years and stopped using. Some of them were expensive and now virtually worthless and not really re-sellable without a lot of effort and discounting. I saw UA has a deal on a bundle for $299 that I probably paid about $2k for. I don’t know what their strategy is, but it has caused me to value them less and have much less interest in them. It’s just turned me off. Maybe that’s not fair, but that’s been my visceral reaction. No way for them to go back now. There is no walking back from cheating a customer, or leaving a customer feeling cheated. That's the end of the relationship. Perhaps, the only thing worse is profoundly wounding someone or damaging their reputation to the point where the damage is irreparable. |
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Post by bossanova on Jun 6, 2024 18:56:19 GMT -6
Thank god I’ve temporarily stopped spending money on plug-ins so I can save the money for a breath controller instead…which will then be used on virtual instruments that I haven’t purchased yet 😆
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