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Post by thehightenor on Apr 12, 2024 9:48:00 GMT -6
I can't get it down to 5 plugin collections! 5 plugins ... crikey. 1x EQ (Hitsville EQ) 1x Compressor (UAD LA2A Grey) 1x Saturation (Decapitator) 1x Limiter (Waves 1176 Bluey) 1x Reverb (Hitsville Chamber) What about delay - I have to have a delay. 1x Delay (Echoboy) So 6 but it would be a demo not a record (well could be a record from 1960  ) |
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Post by svart on Apr 12, 2024 9:48:03 GMT -6
Crave.
Arouser.
Silencer.
SSL native bus.
Valhalla room.
Should cover just about any situation.
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Post by Darren Boling on Apr 12, 2024 9:56:05 GMT -6
MDWDRC2
Kirchhoff EQ
Abyss
Ozone 11
Michelangelo
I wouldn't of guessed this would be my list but these get used the most over a variety of projects.
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Post by nick8801 on Apr 12, 2024 9:57:59 GMT -6
I honestly wouldn't buy anything! I did a mix recently that just wasn't happening. Plenty of UAD stuff on there. Some SSL plugs, FUSE ect....Wasn't bad, just wasn't coming together the way I wanted. Decided to give the mix a fresh shot on my work computer. All I have at work is Reaper and stock Reaper plugs. Also using a freaking mki scarlett and mki JBL305's. Obviously, I knew the song really well at this point, but I made a mix that sounded equal and better to what I was doing at home on my several thousand-dollar setup. Wish I could go back in time and just make myself learn how to mix better lol. It would have saved me lots of money. Of course, for certain projects, all my fancy gear and plugins come in handy, but for this particular track, simple was the way to go. I feel this way sometimes as well. But the catch is that I only learned how to mix better by building out all these tools and things. Working with real hardware and more complex plugins led me to the sounds and moves that I like... which I can now get pretty close to using pretty much anything as long as it's not straight up awful quality. Oh totally....I know what to shoot for using Reaper plugs now that I have a ton of experience on other plugins and hardware. But still.... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 12, 2024 10:02:12 GMT -6
UAD EMT-140
Ozone 11
Pulsar 1178
Pro Q-3
Auto Align 1
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Post by drumsound on Apr 12, 2024 10:09:56 GMT -6
I'm such a basic bitch sometimes. I don't have and haven't even demo'd Soothe or any of the things like it, same with any auto align deals.
So, here are the things that (lately) are on most of my mixes.
UAD1176 blue stripe pummeling vocals (saw Ray Kenedy using his mix note for Car Wheels on a Gravel Road where he did the same with a hairball at 1979, it just works)
UAD Zener (drum parallel)
UAD SSL channel-I made a BD preset that has become my starting point
McDSP 6030 compressor- the first 3rd party plugin I ever bought Super useful with 10 modules
Decapitator Tchad Black Tight Bass Real. I suppose I should just say ST FX rack, because then I get the whole bundle.
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Post by christopher on Apr 12, 2024 10:16:21 GMT -6
-Mixbox - cheating since it’s a pack of vintage stuff.
-ME80- cs80 synth
-Reason- … it runs as a plugin, …so..
-Master bus limiter. I still haven’t found my happy place. Kotelnikov provably my preferred but I don’t know how to use it right. I use Stealth often, it’s easy to understand.
-Immerse virtual studio: forgot I had this and just started messing with it.. useful for headphones.
-Metering: IK Metering is what I use now, the price was right and it’s very easy to understand and pretty great. I open it about 100 times a session haha
Honorable mention: I really like FF ProQ, it’s like reaEQ with extra features. But I also have to HATE it since my mouse tries to adjust the feature and somehow I miss the click and it creates a new node- which then I need to select its features to delete- and then I create another node! A mildly frustrating mess very quick… and I struggle to get my mouse to select the correct node.. so ReaEQ is still my go to.
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Post by nick8801 on Apr 12, 2024 10:33:24 GMT -6
Ok so going back to Reaper...If I had to pick 5 from the stock plugs...
reaeq
reacomp
event horizon limiter
reaverb
readelay
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Post by bluesholyman on Apr 12, 2024 10:52:48 GMT -6
API Lindell 50 series channel strip or Barinworx AMEK 9099 Chanel Strip Liquid Sonics Seventh Heaven Valhalla Delay Melodyne 5 (you can do a lot more than tuning and timing) FF Pro Q-3 Everybody says that about Melodyne but I'm not sure what they mean. Can you give an example?  |
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Post by ragan on Apr 12, 2024 11:23:47 GMT -6
This thread makes me want to delete about 80% of my plug-ins.
I think limits are good for creativity and productivity.
My mom was a piano and voice teacher for many decades (she started teaching piano when she was a teenager). One exercise she would do with younger kids who were learning was to have them write a song. Just a melody, but something with repetition and some sort of melody/rhythm. They would often be totally stuck and unsure of what to do, where to start. So then she would say “ok, write a song using only these five notes” and suddenly they’d come up with all sorts of ideas.
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Post by sean on Apr 12, 2024 11:32:31 GMT -6
Hmm
FabFilter Pro-Q 3
Sonnox Oxford Dynamics or PSP OldTimerME
SoundToys EchoBoy
LiquidSonics Seventh Heaven
ShaperBox (for all things modulation)
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Post by geoff738 on Apr 12, 2024 12:25:37 GMT -6
Hmmm. Having recently bought 4318 plugins you might think I would have thought this through a bit more, but alas, not really.
I am pretty good for hardware compression, but mainly single channel, and mostly pretty clean, so a more vibey compresor, but still versatile. Let me think on that.
Same deal with hardware eq. No stereo pairs. The stock Logic eq is ok for surgical cuts, but something with a bit more character. Api maybe? N style maybe. TDL Slick? Gives a bunch of flavours plus filters.
Autotune. I need it. Nuff said.
Saturation of some sort. Whether that means a tape sim, a transformer sim or a colour box of unknown topology?
And lastly? I am not really sure. Phase alignment? Metering? A clipper?
I kinda suck at this. Good question!
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Apr 12, 2024 13:27:20 GMT -6
I can't get it down to 5 plugin collections! 5 plugins ... crikey. 1x EQ (Hitsville EQ) 1x Compressor (UAD LA2A Grey) 1x Saturation (Decapitator) 1x Limiter (Waves 1176 Bluey) 1x Reverb (Hitsville Chamber) What about delay - I have to have a delay. 1x Delay (Echoboy) So 6 but it would be a demo not a record (well could be a record from 1960 ) Delay and reverb are included free! No need to waste slots. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Apr 12, 2024 13:28:16 GMT -6
MDWDRC2 Kirchhoff EQ Abyss Ozone 11 Michelangelo I wouldn't of guessed this would be my list but these get used the most over a variety of projects. Yeah, that was what made me think of this. My list is the stuff I actually use the most. It's not even my favorites or whatever, they are the plugins that actually make up 80% of the sound of my mix whether I want to admit it or not. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Apr 12, 2024 13:31:33 GMT -6
I'm such a basic bitch sometimes. I don't have and haven't even demo'd Soothe or any of the things like it, same with any auto align deals. So, here are the things that (lately) are on most of my mixes. UAD1176 blue stripe pummeling vocals (saw Ray Kenedy using his mix note for Car Wheels on a Gravel Road where he did the same with a hairball at 1979, it just works) UAD Zener (drum parallel) UAD SSL channel-I made a BD preset that has become my starting point McDSP 6030 compressor- the first 3rd party plugin I ever bought Super useful with 10 modules Decapitator Tchad Black Tight Bass Real. I suppose I should just say ST FX rack, because then I get the whole bundle. As a drum recording specialist... you gotta at least take a sip of Auto Align. Maybe you'll hate it and maybe it'll make things worse cuz you're actually good at recording drums! Haha. But for me it opened up creativity cuz I could just focus on the aspects of the instrument I wanted to pull out without worrying about phase and alignment. It's REALLY indispensable for upright piano (a phase nightmare I've been fighting for decades... the fighting is finally over!) and borderline magical for piano/vocals recorded together. I can just use the mic that sounds best for the vocal without worrying about anything else. |
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Post by drumsound on Apr 12, 2024 13:34:25 GMT -6
I'm such a basic bitch sometimes. I don't have and haven't even demo'd Soothe or any of the things like it, same with any auto align deals. So, here are the things that (lately) are on most of my mixes. UAD1176 blue stripe pummeling vocals (saw Ray Kenedy using his mix note for Car Wheels on a Gravel Road where he did the same with a hairball at 1979, it just works) UAD Zener (drum parallel) UAD SSL channel-I made a BD preset that has become my starting point McDSP 6030 compressor- the first 3rd party plugin I ever bought Super useful with 10 modules Decapitator Tchad Black Tight Bass Real. I suppose I should just say ST FX rack, because then I get the whole bundle. As a drum recording specialist... you gotta at least take a sip of Auto Align. Maybe you'll hate it and maybe it'll make things worse cuz you're actually good at recording drums! Haha. But for me it opened up creativity cuz I could just focus on the aspects of the instrument I wanted to pull out without worrying about phase and alignment. It's REALLY indispensable for upright piano (a phase nightmare I've been fighting for decades... the fighting is finally over!) and borderline magical for piano/vocals recorded together. I can just use the mic that sounds best for the vocal without worrying about anything else. I tend to take a lot of time checking for phase relationships, but I also think there's part of the sound of the drumset that just is phase issues, if that makes sense. |
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Post by niklas1073 on Apr 12, 2024 13:43:32 GMT -6
I think the cool thing about this thread is that at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter if it’s 5 plugs or 10 and what plugs they are. It’s not a question of starting a dogma movement, but just to give it a thought. Focus on the production just to realize and find confidence in the simplicity it so often calls for. It’s so easy to get caught in the multitude of solutions offered out there. It even seems that in this thread you will not find a standardized answer. I thought it would end up in some sort of industry standard consensus. Cool to see that everyone has an approach of their own.
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Post by iamasound on Apr 12, 2024 14:29:46 GMT -6
Molot GE
Limiter°6
Jon V Audio Fircomp 2
Valhalla VintageVerb
Valhalla Delay
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Post by ragan on Apr 12, 2024 14:55:14 GMT -6
For what it’s worth, I’ve been using Auto Align (1) for years, and it’s indispensable to me on guitars and bass, but I’ve never liked it much on drums.
I get better results just flipping polarity and coming up with the phase relationships that sound best, rather then the AA thing of adjusting timing.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 12, 2024 16:04:58 GMT -6
Hmmm
Crave EQ
TSAR-1 Reverb
Pulsar 1178
H-Delay
Standard Clip
That's kind of hard to do. I can think of 5 of each of the categories I use every mix. I could probably mix well enough with a dozen different plugins. I'm glad I don't have to limit myself. Ive found certain things just work on a specific source. Kind of like microphones. Do I need 50+? No, but it makes mixing easier.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Apr 12, 2024 17:04:17 GMT -6
For what it’s worth, I’ve been using Auto Align (1) for years, and it’s indispensable to me on guitars and bass, but I’ve never liked it much on drums. I get better results just flipping polarity and coming up with the phase relationships that sound best, rather then the AA thing of adjusting timing. I don't use it on overheads. Just snare/tom/kick. But you're right, where it's magical is on multi-miked polyphonic instruments like guitar and piano. And then (again) with live vocals added in it really is pretty incredible. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Apr 12, 2024 17:05:18 GMT -6
As a drum recording specialist... you gotta at least take a sip of Auto Align. Maybe you'll hate it and maybe it'll make things worse cuz you're actually good at recording drums! Haha. But for me it opened up creativity cuz I could just focus on the aspects of the instrument I wanted to pull out without worrying about phase and alignment. It's REALLY indispensable for upright piano (a phase nightmare I've been fighting for decades... the fighting is finally over!) and borderline magical for piano/vocals recorded together. I can just use the mic that sounds best for the vocal without worrying about anything else. I tend to take a lot of time checking for phase relationships, but I also think there's part of the sound of the drumset that just is phase issues, if that makes sense. Totally. One thing I wish Auto Align had was some sort of equivalent of a mix knob. Just kind of like "ok, but not soooo perfect that it sounds fake". Maybe it does and I just don't know it. |
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Post by knucklehead89 on Apr 12, 2024 19:59:07 GMT -6
Fabfilter ProQ3
Soundtoys Echoboy
Waves SSL Channel
Ik Multimedia Sunset Sound Reverb
UAD Pultec
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Apr 12, 2024 20:01:49 GMT -6
Fabfilter ProQ3 Soundtoys Echoboy Waves SSL Channel Ik Multimedia Sunset Sound Reverb UAD Pultec FabFilter ProQ3 is as close to "industry standard" as it gets. Looks so cool but I've never even used it. I don't need any more EQ's! (Famous last words...) |
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Post by phdamage on Apr 12, 2024 21:56:04 GMT -6
Sonarworks - best plug-in purchase I have ever made, hands down
FF ProQ-3
Altiverb - save me from my tiny drum room
Soundtoys Decapitator - very old at this point but still really useful for me
LTL Silver Bullet - other things can get me there but this took the place of like 4 plugs on my 2 bus
Funny to think about this as my ilok broke today so had to do some thinking about what to use for my rough mix today. Funny enough, when unsure what to reach for I often grab the Scheps Omni channel. I normally hate channel strip plugs and I rarely use it in an actual mix but totally flexible and serviceable for many uses
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