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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 9, 2024 5:36:38 GMT -6
Now full control, pre mapped uadx (native) and fab filter plugs: interesting!  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 9, 2024 5:38:16 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 9, 2024 5:40:14 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 9, 2024 5:44:25 GMT -6
Also In The Update…
In addition to the FabFilter and UADx plugin control, Softube has added two new processing options for the Tape/Preamp Section of Core Mixing Suite giving users the sound of running through the inputs of analog consoles and tape machines for any DAW. With the new Core Modern and Core Vintage preamps, users can saturate their audio before the Filters, Shape, EQ, Compression, and Drive sections.
Core Modern Preamp offers tone shaping with a gentle presence lift and subtle saturation to emphasise the high mids. Core Vintage Preamp features a rounder tone with a little gentle compression and harmonic saturation as it is driven.
Core Modern Preamp and Core Vintage Preamp come as free updates to all Core Mixing Suite owners. Core Mixing Suite is included with Console 1 Channel Mk III.
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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 9:56:41 GMT -6
I have a love/hate with Console and Fader. I don't know how else to put it. It is both intuitive and unintuitive. I did update today as always.
I used to love this combo. I would have it on most tracks, but not so much lately with the updates / expansions etc even though the updates have added alot of rich features and ease of use over the past year. I use them very sparingly. I do like the Weiss plugins I have and the VCA. It just seems easier to use the native plugin than insert it into the console channel strips. With Fab Filters integration, I have grown so use to 'pulling and lifting' with my mouse that using knobs and sliders is far less visually enjoyable. I pulled it up on a couple tracks today.
I feel too invested to sell them and the consoles I have bought over the years, but I think to need to revisit the workflow in order to integrate the potential again.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 9, 2024 10:05:56 GMT -6
I had console 1 and sold it for that same reason: it’s not really so freeing, each controller ecosystem imposes its own functionality of you.
With a mouse, I just do what I want: once.
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Post by miscreantrecords on Apr 9, 2024 14:03:58 GMT -6
Being pre-mapped for UAD and Fabfilter definitely makes it way more appealing to me. Interesting update for sure.
That said, I still suspect it's not enough to make me move away from my beloved magic mouse.
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Post by Dan on Apr 10, 2024 9:05:46 GMT -6
Honestly it’s kinda weird because the Softube plugs not the channel strips meant for console 1 are cut down. the best softube tools are the Weiss stuff and the fx and tbh the cut down Weiss plugs are faster than the console 1 ssl and api plugs, which are normally pretty fast to use equipment. Then you can bring out the fuller, more complex eq1 and ds1 for stuff like dynamic eq, vocal compression, bus compression etc.
The eq mp Fabfilter pro q clone, the compressor/limiter if you just want some smack, the de-esser, and maximizer. The Weiss dynamics all have a sound because of how it is designed (attack/release before threshold and lookahead being a delay in the side chain with minute hold) but it sounds good.
The console 1 Weiss gambit strip also has a worse anti-alias filter versus the rest of the Weiss bundle.
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Post by spud on Apr 10, 2024 12:27:58 GMT -6
Honestly it’s kinda weird because the Softube plugs not the channel strips meant for console 1 are cut down. the best softube tools are the Weiss stuff and the fx and tbh the cut down Weiss plugs are faster than the console 1 ssl and api plugs, which are normally pretty fast to use equipment. Then you can bring out the fuller, more complex eq1 and ds1 for stuff like dynamic eq, vocal compression, bus compression etc. The eq mp Fabfilter pro q clone, the compressor/limiter if you just want some smack, the de-esser, and maximizer. The Weiss dynamics all have a sound because of how it is designed (attack/release before threshold and lookahead being a delay in the side chain with minute hold) but it sounds good. The console 1 Weiss gambit strip also has a worse anti-alias filter versus the rest of the Weiss bundle. I don't think it's the Weiss for Console 1 but the Console 1 plugin itself which has this crappy anti-aliasing filter. When oversampled in Reaper, this filter disappears. I don't have the Weiss module but this filter is also there with the Chandler, American, British, etc. modules even though they don't have it as a plugin. I stopped using my Console 1 because of this filter (and also its limitations, too many essential third-party plugins in my template) |
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Post by Dan on Apr 10, 2024 22:29:58 GMT -6
Honestly it’s kinda weird because the Softube plugs not the channel strips meant for console 1 are cut down. the best softube tools are the Weiss stuff and the fx and tbh the cut down Weiss plugs are faster than the console 1 ssl and api plugs, which are normally pretty fast to use equipment. Then you can bring out the fuller, more complex eq1 and ds1 for stuff like dynamic eq, vocal compression, bus compression etc. The eq mp Fabfilter pro q clone, the compressor/limiter if you just want some smack, the de-esser, and maximizer. The Weiss dynamics all have a sound because of how it is designed (attack/release before threshold and lookahead being a delay in the side chain with minute hold) but it sounds good. The console 1 Weiss gambit strip also has a worse anti-alias filter versus the rest of the Weiss bundle. I don't think it's the Weiss for Console 1 but the Console 1 plugin itself which has this crappy anti-aliasing filter. When oversampled in Reaper, this filter disappears. I don't have the Weiss module but this filter is also there with the Chandler, American, British, etc. modules even though they don't have it as a plugin. I stopped using my Console 1 because of this filter (and also its limitations, too many essential third-party plugins in my template) Whatever it is, it sounds worse than regular pointer controlled versions. I only own the Weiss and some of the fx because of the minimum phase anti alias filters on plugs not meant to scramble the phase. I wonder how much worse it is for the British class a, summit grand Channel, and chandler zener bender plugs? Those all sound great but have the phase shift and sound better than the running the eqs and compressors separately. U-he and overloud plugins have similar phase shift but u-he generally sounds better than softube except for the Weiss and overloud makes more utilitarian amp sims. |
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 11, 2024 1:36:27 GMT -6
Really chuffed with this update. The support for UADx and Fabfilter is very smart of Softube. From the start everyone wanted wider 3rd party support and we got it. It’s interesting pulling up a Hitsville EQ and not having the bias inducing “Skeuomorphic cartoon GUI” and only controls as now it’s just sound. That really suits my approach - I hate looking at music. I very carefully ABX tested the UAD 88RS strip against the Softube Neve strip and I could set the EQ’s so I couldn’t tell which was which. I’m impressed with Softube coding. All in all, Console 1 is turning into a very useful little unit - I think Softube have done a great job and hats off to them for continuing to develop the mk2 even though there’s now a mk3 …. I think they’ve learnt from RME how to build a great reputation  |
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Post by Mister Chase on Apr 11, 2024 9:23:04 GMT -6
I need to set up my CS1 again. This is really a cool update. I am wondering, though, what phase setting the Fabfilter Pro-Q3 is on. I really prefer natural phase.
In any case, yea, turning off GUI's and spectrum analyzers and just turning some knobs is really great. I like that. Especially with mouse RSI that I have.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 11, 2024 9:37:01 GMT -6
I just find the current price for the mkiii a little high, it’s almost doubled Mi-mkiii.
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Post by brenta on Apr 11, 2024 9:52:19 GMT -6
Very cool. Now if only Avid would cooperate with Softube on PT and Console 1 integration. Maybe with the new owners they will. I doubt it, but maybe.
Between SSL and Softube there are finally some compelling control surface options.
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Post by Mister Chase on Apr 11, 2024 10:07:04 GMT -6
Very cool. Now if only Avid would cooperate with Softube on PT and Console 1 integration. Maybe with the new owners they will. I doubt it, but maybe. Between SSL and Softube there are finally some compelling control surface options. Yea, I wish PT would get on board but I doubt it. I did try loading the latest updated version in a mix in PT and at least it carries over the track name and number now. I remember when I had my MKii early on, I think it didn't show anything and you had to manually name all the C1 tracks in the plugin. The plugin seems to remove the output fader in C1 when in PT. I may give it a whirl on a mix and see what happens. Correction: The output of C1 just didnt show as I didn't have the unit connected with the OSD on. |
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