lyons
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Post by lyons on Mar 29, 2024 19:17:23 GMT -6
Hey all,
A beginner question here: When I am in a pro studio or in the car I can hear clearly that my mix is too muddy. Far too much between 140-300 roughly.
I would love some monitors that let me hear this in my room (which is treated). What monitors can I get that will let me hear in my room what I’m hearing in the car (mud, boominess, distortion)? (Which is what people listening in their car/on the tv will hear) As opposed to what I hear on headphones which always sound great. Am open to headphones also if this will let me hear.
I’ve been trying my best to research and from what I can see anything bigger than 5” is not necessary (though I’m not completely sure why). Have ended up looking at the jbl 305s - will this give me what I’m looking for? Am open to all suggestions.
I’ve been doing this for such a long time but my technical knowledge is really poor as I’ve spent more time on the art/production side (and I’ve spent even longer lying to myself). But I know when what I’m hearing is wrong - that’s when I’m able to hear it in a proper setting.
Thanks!
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Post by Tbone81 on Mar 29, 2024 19:27:44 GMT -6
That’s a pretty broad question. For starters, what monitors are you currently using? What type of treatment, and how much, do you have in your room?
You can’t judge monitors based on the size of the woofer alone, it’s a combination of many things that makes things sound the way they do.
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Post by ericn on Mar 29, 2024 20:16:35 GMT -6
Hey all, A beginner question here: When I am in a pro studio or in the car I can hear clearly that my mix is too muddy. Far too much between 140-300 roughly. I would love some monitors that let me hear this in my room (which is treated). What monitors can I get that will let me hear in my room what I’m hearing in the car (mud, boominess, distortion)? (Which is what people listening in their car/on the tv will hear) As opposed to what I hear on headphones which always sound great. Am open to headphones also if this will let me hear. I’ve been trying my best to research and from what I can see anything bigger than 5” is not necessary (though I’m not completely sure why). Have ended up looking at the jbl 305s - will this give me what I’m looking for? Am open to all suggestions. I’ve been doing this for such a long time but my technical knowledge is really poor as I’ve spent more time on the art/production side (and I’ve spent even longer lying to myself). But I know when what I’m hearing is wrong - that’s when I’m able to hear it in a proper setting. Thanks! It’s not about driver size, but LF response. A manufacturer could build a 5in that operates down to 18HZ, distortion figures would suck as would efficiency but it can be done. Even then driver size is the measure of the frame not the cone ( SD is the cone area). Honestly, I would figure out how low you can go with what you have and put a high pass across the monitor bus. I use these all the time & they are fairly inexpensive. www.hlabs.com/products/crossovers/ |
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Post by Dan on Mar 30, 2024 20:45:38 GMT -6
KRK Rokit 5. There you go. G5 keeps the Kevlar woofer and ditches the too dark kevlar tweeter for a normal soft dome.
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Post by noob on Mar 30, 2024 21:25:09 GMT -6
If you can go a bit bigger than 5", my Kali IN8 V2's are really helping me with that usually muddy range - they are 3 way speakers so very clear in that region. I don't have a big room at all, it's 13"x11".
They have a really nice low end and never feels out of control. They sound great at lower volume and loud. To me, they seem very flat over the entire frequency spectrum, not scooped in the low mids; have been translating great. Great bang for your buck! I suggest checking out some reviews.
You could also check out the IN5 versions which are also 3-way speakers. Those might be more up your alley since they are smaller, but I haven't personally used them.
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Post by theshea on Mar 31, 2024 1:33:40 GMT -6
use a frequency analyzer and headphones to correct the muddiness.
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Post by sean on Mar 31, 2024 6:50:40 GMT -6
Neumann KH80 blew my mind and are probably still the best speaker I've found for home use...upgraded to KH150's and while they do sound better I think the little Neumann's are best for low level listening. The DSP helped with the 140Hz null in my room that's pretty much impossible to get rid of acoustically.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 31, 2024 7:26:59 GMT -6
Any problems, with plastic enclosures?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 31, 2024 7:29:17 GMT -6
If you can go a bit bigger than 5", my Kali IN8 V2's are really helping me with that usually muddy range - they are 3 way speakers so very clear in that region. I don't have a big room at all, it's 13"x11". They have a really nice low end and never feels out of control. They sound great at lower volume and loud. To me, they seem very flat over the entire frequency spectrum, not scooped in the low mids; have been translating great. Great bang for your buck! I suggest checking out some reviews. You could also check out the IN5 versions which are also 3-way speakers. Those might be more up your alley since they are smaller, but I haven't personally used them. I demoed sone 2 way Kali recently, stopped in 10 seconds, lack of lower mid to bass clarity . They weren’t for me. |
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