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Post by nicksteinborn on Mar 31, 2024 22:06:09 GMT -6
I see the sale ends today, .... at Thoman. On sale the Vocalign project 5 is $71 ... and the Vocalign Ultra is $208 .. are the extra features in Ultra worth the price difference? The added tuning is just another potential time saving. Also another place for potential glitching. Luckily, Vocalign is incredibly fast so it's not hard to turn a knob and have it reprocess. I personally think Ultra has been worth the added expense even if the tuning can often end up being a little more robotic than I would have done manually. In the context of a mix/pile of vocals, it's absolutely workable and generally sounds really good. Super easy to manually tune/edit a couple lines here and there if I need to. |
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Post by christophert on Apr 1, 2024 2:17:13 GMT -6
A mouse is pretty cheap  I don't get all of this "auto" editing stuff - except Auto Align which is an excellent phase problem solving software. I'm fine to do my vocals with my $30 mouse. A good double track usually only needs a nudge or two. Backing vocals if they are rehearsed and locked in all is good - if not : do another take, and maybe there is an edit or two to do. There seems to be mindset of throwing stuff down, don't focus on everything locking in, cause.. "don't worry I'll fix it later" IMO there is a better way. |
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Post by doubledog on Apr 1, 2024 7:08:34 GMT -6
A mouse is pretty cheap I don't get all of this "auto" editing stuff - except Auto Align which is an excellent phase problem solving software. I'm fine to do my vocals with my $30 mouse. A good double track usually only needs a nudge or two. Backing vocals if they are rehearsed and locked in all is good - if not : do another take, and maybe there is an edit or two to do. There seems to be mindset of throwing stuff down, don't focus on everything locking in, cause.. "don't worry I'll fix it later" IMO there is a better way. if you are only recording yourself then sure, that's not a problem. If you get a mixing project from somewhere else and they never even set foot in your studio, then this doesn't always work. Many times mixing is a set rate so the longer you spend messing around with something, the lower your pay goes. If I can pull up a plugin and know that I can "fix" it in under 30 seconds then I'm all for owning that plugin (and it pays for itself). if the session is at my studio, I always try to get it right, but I'm also not going to stop the session to mix a bunch of vocals to make sure they line up perfectly. That can really kill a vibe or take a musician out of their headspace. If that means that I find something that is a little "off" later and I have to fix it, I'd rather do that (if it even needs it). And for phase alignment? I'd rather do that correctly in the first place than have to correct it later, but if I didn't record it, then I'll do what is necessary to try to make it sound good (if it's possible). sometimes we don't get a choice. |
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Post by tkaitkai on Apr 1, 2024 11:28:34 GMT -6
There seems to be mindset of throwing stuff down, don't focus on everything locking in, cause.. "don't worry I'll fix it later" IMO there is a better way. I'm a heavy user of Vocalign, but this isn't my mindset at all. I always strive to match my performances as close as humanly possible when tracking doubles/triples, but there are always going to be minor discrepancies in timing that simply cannot be avoided during the recording process. Vocalign is a super fast way to tighten things up and give me extra thickness/width on the lead vocal. I don't want doubles to sound natural, nor do I want them to really be obvious. For me, they're more of a mixing effect. |
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