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Post by geoff738 on Mar 11, 2024 16:50:46 GMT -6
Can someone here shed a little more light on what these do and where you would use them?
I have watched a bunch of videos and not sure I completely grok it yet.
And if you have a favourite or one you don’t particularly care for, please do tell.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by notneeson on Mar 11, 2024 17:11:19 GMT -6
Can someone here shed a little more light on what these do and where you would use them? I have watched a bunch of videos and not sure I completely grok it yet. And if you have a favourite or one you don’t particularly care for, please do tell. Cheers, Geoff You can use it to gently duck the music bed with the vocal, but only at parts of the spectrum where vocals are relevant. Or, same thing on bass, make a tiny bit more space for the kick drum right where the drum speaks. That kind of thing. For me it's best when it's subtle, and I use Fab Filter. |
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Post by Tbone81 on Mar 11, 2024 17:23:37 GMT -6
I use Melda Audio Dynamic Auto Eq on 90% of my mixes.
I place the eq on the bass and feed the side chain with the kick. The gui will display the frequencies of the kick and I use that as a guide to set one band of eq to duck every time the kick hits. Allows me to keep the low end big and tight.
Another thing that might help is to think of dynamic eq as a multi band compressor. Just with different slope settings. You can use it to tame certain frequencies that get out of control.
As was just stated, less is more imho. If I can hear the bass ducking it’s too much, I set the threshold of the cut so that I can hear the kick more clearly but not so much that the bass is pumping.
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 11, 2024 18:42:39 GMT -6
There’s also the ones that treat transient info differently than non-transient stuff. Maybe those are a different thing entirely?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by wiz on Mar 11, 2024 20:15:42 GMT -6
There’s also the ones that treat transient info differently than non-transient stuff. Maybe those are a different thing entirely? Cheers, Geoff The only one I have and use is PROQ3 by fabfilter... I might use it on a bass if there is a note poking out and interfering with something else... and tuck it in like that... cheers Wiz |
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Post by poppaflavor on Mar 11, 2024 21:59:13 GMT -6
Anyone know of analog only hardware dynamic EQs currently in production other than TOMO Lisa? Not DSP hardware like the XTA D2 or TC EQ Station were.
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 12, 2024 2:51:28 GMT -6
Can someone here shed a little more light on what these do and where you would use them? I have watched a bunch of videos and not sure I completely grok it yet. And if you have a favourite or one you don’t particularly care for, please do tell. Cheers, Geoff Great for vocals, just pulling down any pokey frequencies without EQ'ing the selected bandwidth permanently. I still love the Dynamic EQ plugin on my Powercore, TC made some fabulous digital tools way back and quite a few have stood the test of time. |
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Post by niklas1073 on Mar 12, 2024 3:40:28 GMT -6
Can someone here shed a little more light on what these do and where you would use them? I have watched a bunch of videos and not sure I completely grok it yet. And if you have a favourite or one you don’t particularly care for, please do tell. Cheers, Geoff Dynamic eq and multiband compressor does a similar thing, they are not the same though. The cool thing is that you can just duck specific frequencies at given threshold without altering the sound of the instrument. Most valuable I've seen it in mastering context though, for example shaping the low end, damping harsh build ups etc. I like the ozone one. But that said, i don't like to use one unless its the only way out. Rather try to figure out what clashes to begin with, but its a powerful and widely used tool today. |
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Post by mcirish on Mar 12, 2024 5:53:07 GMT -6
A little dynamic EQ somewhere between 2-4k can really help a vocal sit out front without becoming harsh. I use it all the time.
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Post by tasteliketape on Mar 12, 2024 6:24:48 GMT -6
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 12, 2024 7:08:33 GMT -6
I use the Ozone dynamic all the time. It's most useful to help control bass or presence peaks. It can be really subtle, but it helps my compressors and final limiter to work the way I want them to.
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Post by robo on Mar 12, 2024 11:21:58 GMT -6
There are a lot of intelligent resonance suppressors nowadays, spectral ducking, transient eq’s, etc, so I haven’t used a dynamic eq for a while. They can be good at the end of a mix, to get elements to sit or pop out just a bit better. Ozone’s dynamic eq is good in small doses.
Some related processors that might get you better results: Techivation’s M-Blender, M-Clarity, M-Desser, M-Puncher; Crave Dynamic EQ.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Mar 12, 2024 11:36:55 GMT -6
I like the SurferEQ from SoundRadix. An easy to use dynamic EQ that also includes the "surf" feature which moves the given curve around to match the note being played. The surf thing works great on bass, pretty well on vocals, hit or miss on polyphonic instruments.
But the rest is just a good dynamic EQ which works in the same areas any tool like that works.
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Post by drumsound on Mar 12, 2024 12:19:27 GMT -6
I use the McDsp AE400 from time to time. Somtimes to deal with bleed from other sources. Like, I might want to accentuate some attack on a BD mic, but that same frequency range has snare bleed that doesn't sound good if I just boost there with a normal EQ. So I'll set up the hi mid band to expand with BD attack, but settle back down after so the snare isn't as affected. Singers with one 'spot' in their range that sticks out even with normal compression will get sometime huge dynamic dips and it will help the vocal to sit where I want it.
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Post by poppaflavor on Mar 13, 2024 17:45:56 GMT -6
Anyone know of analog only hardware dynamic EQs currently in production other than TOMO Lisa? Not DSP hardware like the XTA D2 or TC EQ Station were. Wow, nothing from no one? Welp, I found one so neener neener neener. :-P BSS DPR 901 II bssaudio.com/en-US/products/dpr-901iiShould be here in a few days. Can't wait to give 'er a go. And peek inside at the gutz. Plan is to run hardware encoded m/s into the two DPR901 channels, mids into the two lower freq dynamic EQ bands and sides into the two higher freq dynamic EQ bands. Then HW decode. Buckle up and batten down boys we's going get experimental. Woohoo! |
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Post by tasteliketape on Mar 13, 2024 18:19:42 GMT -6
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Post by poppaflavor on Mar 13, 2024 20:28:46 GMT -6
Oh the rabbit hole just got so deep. I'm totally gaga over Goly. Have been for years. Never quite got up the gumption to invest though. I've just vicariously adored from afar. The only reason I didn't list his products alongside the TOMO Lisa is that I wasn't entirely clear that they are dynamic EQs rather than multiband internally sidechained companders (e.g. Cross Comp). That link you provided straightened out my understanding and is sheer gold. I'd never encountered that story arc of his products, and that was an entirely delightful and insightful read. Thank you so much! I've got a new perspective now on his products and how they fit into the Goly ecosystem. Now I'm entranced even more and have to set my sites on getting some Goly gear. And wow. That CLM is surprisingly deep looking. I never heard of that device before. Reading up on it now, and it does look extraordinarily compelling. Of course SOS always does phenomenal write-ups, but their write up for this particular device is really explicit. Thank you for getting me back in gas mode when I haven't even yet received the dynamic EQ which is currently in route :-) Those are phenomenal options and I'm glad you pegged them here in your post. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 13, 2024 20:51:42 GMT -6
Nova GE is the best one. A lot of the other digital filters cannot be automated yet alone have their gain subject to a compressor moving far faster than your fingers. The Sonnox Oxford Dynamic EQ is the second best one but it has a lookahead to ramp the attack so cannot really do a lot above 2-3 khz or so beyond reduce the gain in advance of the event.
The others like the Weiss DS1 DYN mode, Fabfilter, Kirchoff very heavily ramp the gain. Weiss does it so much it's like automation. The others... less so. Do not run the softube plugin in low latency mode. Use the super high latency one for cleaner sound. It still has the hold so you want the lookahead with it.
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Post by Dan on Mar 13, 2024 21:17:03 GMT -6
Oh and the Apulsoft ApQualizr2 is really good!
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Post by ericn on Mar 13, 2024 21:47:29 GMT -6
I’m still old school and simply prefer to use a compressor with side chain an EQ. This way I choose both the compression response and the filters.
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