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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 5, 2024 13:55:39 GMT -6
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Post by winetree on Mar 5, 2024 15:01:14 GMT -6
I've built Two of the 1084 modules.
These are a very difficult build.
12 P.S.B. s and over 700 parts pre module.
The 1081 kits look to be newly added. but still a difficult build.
Great sounding units. Good price if you got the time and skills.
MY next pair I'll have built.
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 5, 2024 15:28:47 GMT -6
I've built Two of the 1084 modules. These are a very difficult build. 12 P.S.B. s and over 700 parts pre module. The 1081 kits look to be newly added. but still a difficult build. Great sounding units. Good price if you got the time and skills. MY next pair I'll have built. I've wanted a capi sumbuss for years but idk if they will ever come back at this point. So one of these might fill the time. 12 pcbs. Wow. Haha fun. |
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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on Mar 5, 2024 22:55:07 GMT -6
Built a few of the 1084 kits. They were quite an undertaking. I want to say first of all that the 1084 is an amazing kit. These builds have ultimately been my most rewarding DIY experiences so far. I had some build issues, but I learned a lot about the circuit during my extensive troubleshooting endeavors.
My kits were missing a few parts, and some of the capacitors were bulging and damaged. With soooo many parts, it would certainly seem understandable that some things slip through the cracks on the DIY kits. You're talking thousands of pieces if you buy a few kits, and they all get consolidated/sorted with AML. I've built some AML Pultecs in the past, and those were all good. Never had any issues there. Also, the pre-assembled AML stuff is top-notch.
If you hit any snags, you just need to be ready to figure out exactly what is wrong so you can pivot without too much headache. In some discussions with AML, they certainly made it clear that the 1084 was not intended for an amateur (like me) or even a weekend warrior, so to speak. On something like a CAPI VP312, there aren't too many parts. The AML 1084 is dramatically more complicated than even a CAPI VP28. I’d venture that the 1084 is a good three VP28s worth of building assuming you're also including the opamps. I can knock out a full VP28 in an afternoon/evening. Each 1084 took a solid weekend with a few decent breaks in there, all while being methodical and taking my time. The techniques needed to assemble the 1084 aren't exactly beyond the VP28, for instance. There are certainly a few really tight spots on the 1084, but they aren't worse than a 2520 opamp IMO. Its just that there are SO MANY parts in the 1084. There are just that many more chances to screw up, and finding the issue can be quite complicated. The AML build guides suggest that the 1084 (for instance) is suitable for those that solder everyday. And in hindsight, I think I understand what they mean now. The actual soldering is likely not the main issue - rather, it’s the troubleshooting. If you’re soldering everyday, I’d imagine you’re also doing a decent amount of troubleshooting, or at least have the knowledge of what to look for and how to test your builds quickly and efficiently. You have an oscilloscope, for instance, and know how to instantly interpret schematics, etc.
It looks like the 1081 is even more involved than the 1084. Wow! I sincerely applaud Colin and the AML team for making these kits. They are really a work of art. It is amazing that all of that tone and electrical sexiness can be so eloquently packed into a 2-space 500 module.
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