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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 5, 2024 12:07:53 GMT -6
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Post by lowlou on Mar 5, 2024 12:42:49 GMT -6
Well the price is crazy good on this one...
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Post by niklas1073 on Mar 5, 2024 13:05:19 GMT -6
It looks like the three, KT, Warm and Lindell is following each other in the line pretty tight. This is op amp though, so differs a little.
What I keep wondering about is why in these day so few put out stereo units. iGS, manley, retro, stam, maybe some others… but all and all with the hw market today, you would think it would be a great selling point. Pretty much everyone who does analog or hybrid will have some stereo units for bus work, but even itb mixers might end up with a bus comp or eq if nothing else. Just a thought.
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Post by drumsound on Mar 5, 2024 13:14:24 GMT -6
There actually were solid state Pultec (and Lang) EQs. It looks like the three, KT, Warm and Lindell is following each other in the line pretty tight. This is op amp though, so differs a little. What I keep wondering about is why in these day so few put out stereo units. iGS, manley, retro, stam, maybe some others… but all and all with the hw market today, you would think it would be a great selling point. Pretty much everyone who does analog or hybrid will have some stereo units for bus work, but even itb mixers might end up with a bus comp or eq if nothing else. Just a thought. The stereo thing is a really good point. Especially stereo units with one set of controls for busses.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 5, 2024 13:21:25 GMT -6
Does this cheaper Chinese stuff sound as good as...some plugs?
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Post by seawell on Mar 5, 2024 13:29:45 GMT -6
Does this cheaper Chinese stuff sound as good as...some plugs? Haven't heard any Lindell stuff but I would take a pultec plug-in over the Warm Audio Pultec.
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Post by raddistribution on Mar 5, 2024 14:14:34 GMT -6
Does this cheaper Chinese stuff sound as good as...some plugs? definitely, this unit sounds crazy good for the money. not to mention, the way i have them designed and specifically calibrated, they can be used as matched stereo pairs.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 5, 2024 14:28:09 GMT -6
Let the shoot out, begin, please send Josh(seawell) a stereo linked pair. Putting on the popcorn !
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 5, 2024 15:52:48 GMT -6
Does this cheaper Chinese stuff sound as good as...some plugs? definitely, this unit sounds crazy good for the money. not to mention, the way i have them designed and specifically calibrated, they can be used as matched stereo pairs. So are you and the BL guys designing this stuff?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 5, 2024 15:53:25 GMT -6
Let the shoot out, begin, please send Josh(seawell) a stereo linked pair. Putting on the popcorn ! You getting kickbacks from Seawell? lol
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 5, 2024 15:56:16 GMT -6
Ah, he said you were the bag man and something about a free sta?
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Post by enlav on Mar 5, 2024 16:57:39 GMT -6
You guys joke, but at this point it feels like I'm more familiar with Seawell and Johnkenn's voice than my own.
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Post by copperx on Mar 5, 2024 17:02:56 GMT -6
Let the shoot out, begin, please send Josh(seawell) a stereo linked pair. Putting on the popcorn !
If Josh is on board, RAD Distribution, please do this!! That's what I would do if I was selling any audio gear.
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Post by copperx on Mar 5, 2024 17:06:09 GMT -6
Does this cheaper Chinese stuff sound as good as...some plugs? definitely, this unit sounds crazy good for the money. not to mention, the way i have them designed and specifically calibrated, they can be used as matched stereo pairs.
If this is true, that's even cheaper than DIYing the JLM Pultec clone! Nice!
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Post by eq on Mar 5, 2024 19:36:16 GMT -6
This may just be what I was looking for and the price is just right ! I was looking to add some "weight " "color" to my signal chain and was debating between the Bereich Density, Neve 542 Tape , or EQ.
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Post by robo on Mar 5, 2024 20:20:43 GMT -6
definitely, this unit sounds crazy good for the money. not to mention, the way i have them designed and specifically calibrated, they can be used as matched stereo pairs.
If this is true, that's even cheaper than DIYing the JLM Pultec clone! Nice!
Except the JLM clone has a big fat transformer and a bunch of extra freqs. The low end is pretty unbeatable IME. Still curious to hear the new Lindell!
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Post by copperx on Mar 5, 2024 21:40:06 GMT -6
If this is true, that's even cheaper than DIYing the JLM Pultec clone! Nice!
Except the JLM clone has a big fat transformer and a bunch of extra freqs. The low end is pretty unbeatable IME. Still curious to hear the new Lindell! Wait, so the Lindell is transformerless?
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Post by poppaflavor on Mar 5, 2024 23:01:56 GMT -6
"rascally engineers" :-)
That description could use a bit of polish though. Not sure if it's Front End's or Lindell's.
In the features-
-The *4* stepped HF frequencies are 5 frequencies.
-The bandwidth control goes from 0-10 *khz*.
-The High Freq Boost Control: 1, 1.5, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, *19*, 12, 14, and 16 kHz
This statement regarding why this 1731 opamp design has advantages over a tube design is particularly interesting:
"A faster transient response with a smooth, creamy, punchy character."
I thought the 1731 (and the 2520 used in the Pultec SS 500 series EQP-500X) were relatively slow slew rate opamps. I guess the description means faster transient response than a vapacitor-tube circuit. Also, punchy and fast-transient don't sound like they'd be coming from the same opamp that sounds smooth and creamy.
The LiNTEC is only ~25% of the price of the SS 500 series Pultec EQP-500X though so it will be interesting to hear a shootout between them. The LiNTEC 1731 should be a bit more colored than the Pultec 2520?
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Post by raddistribution on Mar 6, 2024 11:31:24 GMT -6
Except the JLM clone has a big fat transformer and a bunch of extra freqs. The low end is pretty unbeatable IME. Still curious to hear the new Lindell! Wait, so the Lindell is transformerless? nope, we had custom transformers made for both the input and the output
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Post by patrickp on Mar 6, 2024 11:36:49 GMT -6
Does this cheaper Chinese stuff sound as good as...some plugs? Haven't heard any Lindell stuff but I would take a pultec plug-in over the Warm Audio Pultec. Funny thing is that Kiive audio did a free plugin emulation of it and also Acustica Audio in their Pultec Purple suite lol
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Post by seawell on Mar 6, 2024 12:24:51 GMT -6
Haven't heard any Lindell stuff but I would take a pultec plug-in over the Warm Audio Pultec. Funny thing is that Kiive audio did a free plugin emulation of it and also Acustica Audio in their Pultec Purple suite lol Ha! We live in a strange time where we're making clones of clones LOL! Speaking of purple, I really like the EQH-2 on mix buss, it's a bit cleaner than the EQP-1a which I like for that application.
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Post by andtide on Jul 17, 2024 15:08:08 GMT -6
Lintec just arrived from good ole Amazon.
Will post guts and my 2 cents this evening. First unboxing and under the lid impression: only 400 bucks? Wow.
I’m eager… we shall see. Just looking for good EQ I can multiply for mix down without shelling out.. much more.
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Post by Dan on Jul 17, 2024 16:21:20 GMT -6
Does this cheaper Chinese stuff sound as good as...some plugs? no. They generally kill detail like a dbx or Behringer circuit. Almost all of the over sampled (for analog gain and phase) double precision eqs generally sound better and smoother than them: MDWEQ, PSP Squad with analog turned off, the tdr slick eq ge and m, softube Weiss EQ 1 and MP, etc can be unreal smooth.
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Post by Dan on Jul 17, 2024 16:29:38 GMT -6
Funny thing is that Kiive audio did a free plugin emulation of it and also Acustica Audio in their Pultec Purple suite lol Ha! We live in a strange time where we're making clones of clones LOL! Speaking of purple, I really like the EQH-2 on mix buss, it's a bit cleaner than the EQP-1a which I like for that application. that’s been the case since people cloned the gssl including the off stereo section and the erroneous auto release instead of the ssl bus. I swear some stuff is a plugin of a plugin too. Remember the UAD Cambridge EQ and Precision maximizer being clones of Oxford EQ and Inflator? A lot of later versions of gear might as well be clones too being redesigned and made in difference places with different parts and circuits before the cloners get them. See all name brand gear reissues and pedal revisions and clones.
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Post by andtide on Jul 17, 2024 22:01:54 GMT -6
Unboxed from Amazon. Internals look solid- well built. Only “cost cutting” measure I see is the lack of XLR (not a big deal to me. All of my outboard has to get into the patch bay anyway. I prefer dealing with TRS and TT) and that’s pretty much it. More importantly the guts are in a fashion that is SERVICEABLE. All gear has to go to the doctor at some point.
It’s why I couldn’t pain myself to buy that cool tube reverb with the trippy hologram or some of the gainlab stuff (metering is so cool). But yeah give me stuff that is never gonna break or something that can be repaired. Caps go. It is what it is..but I need gear that I can fix or my tech dude. I am scared of proprietary hoo ha.
There was mention of plastic knobs on this Lindell unit.. I mean I have operated many SSL and Neve consoles.. that had millions of little plastic knobs… they are knobs.
They do not FEEL cheap and that is important to me as tactile interaction is one of the most valuable things for me. I can be picky. I have used many a thing that sounded great but didn’t provide me with a good user experience- therefore I do not own them.
I LOVE DETENTED KNOBS. Recall is important. The more gear I have with detects the better my life is. Also I like that it sorta keeps you *limited*.
I put it in a rack and put it in a mix. Seemed like a pretty damned good EQ to me. I had it on a guitar. Did what I needed. Put it on kick.. and it now it’s parked there until I bounce stems tomorrow. I was looking for a kinda around 1500 utility EQ that I could get multiples of for mix down.
Figured.. dang it’s Prime! For how cheap it was I didn’t care about having to return it at the nearby ups. What a deal!!
Look at it this way: I had a kick going into a neve EQ and neve comp, and just for testing purposes nixed those and patched in the Lindell (and ultimately to an ssl bus comp on the drum bus) and I KEPT the Lindell on the insert. .
It sounded great AND I get to free up the other gear for other things.
Just tools! Im also a fan of the Seventeen which I believe Lindell designed. Could be wrong.
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