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Post by Ward on Mar 1, 2024 9:31:34 GMT -6
And worth twice that on an off day. My pair get used almost every single day I'm tracking.
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Post by ericn on Mar 1, 2024 12:05:31 GMT -6
To each their own, if it makes you happy that’s what matters. I can understand why people might be into it. What’s unique about the capsule? The $400-$800 range of condensers/ribbons is a pretty competitive segment. About the CapsuleI agree that it's a competitive segment. I think it's great that people are out there trying to do something different in a world of U47 clones. Yeah it’s a crowded segment, however has Tony points out there is very little originality in this segment. Lots of obvious copies and OEM mics provided to many vendors. One issue is this segment is really dominated by mics sold by dealers, the manufacturer direct market isn’t as strong. I suspect this is because this is becoming entry level for those who want to record. The thing is bang for the buck wise a decent manufacturer can sell what would be $750 mic via dealers for $500 direct.
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Post by ohmasammy on Mar 1, 2024 12:33:07 GMT -6
Hey there- Sammy from Ohma here
Thanks for the words about our mics. Happy to answer any questions y'all might have.
To clarify a few things, yes, three of us here used to work at AEA. We were the sales, marketing, and design team for many years and worked on the N22, N8, preamps, and the KU5A. The KU5A and N8 were my personal projects that I pushed to make happen. Sergio from Bock/Universal Audio is also a part of the team at Ohma. We're only 4 people here!
Our capsule is an original design. It's based on an article from a science journal in the mid-1900s that was meant to teach how to make a condenser microphone. It's an interesting article that had some great ideas. We spent three years tweaking the design until it became it's own thing. We call it the Debby capsule as an homage since one of the original authors was named Debenham. It's a unique capsule because it's a single backplate design, like a K47, but with an edge terminated diaphragm, like a CK12.
Most comparable ribbon and condenser mics are in the $1000+ range. We are able to sell ours mics at the current pricing because we designed them to be easy to machine and assemble, and we do the important and expensive operations in-house which include painting and making our own capsules.
Our mics are made of aluminum and the screens are made of stainless steel. Our paint is a ceramic film that gets sprayed (by me personally!) and then baked in an oven for two hours. We use a custom Lehle transformer in our ribbons with active electronics and a vintage cinemag from the 90s in our condensers (yeah the 90s are vintage now, crazy). We're one of less than a handful of companies that make our own capsules, and even fewer that aren't making a clone of an existing capsule.
Our R&D process has always involved trying different materials in front of the ribbon. Different mesh types and materials typically have a significant impact on the top end and how the mic responds to proximity effect. At other mic companies we've worked at, some mics were almost identical in design with the exception of different internal screens. We wanted to see how far we could push this by trying different shapes and seeing how they would impact on the sound.
We tried 40 different designs. Some sounded like trash and some sounded great. We picked our 5 favorite sounding designs. While we made screen designs that are even more drastic, we wanted to start with ones that didn't completely change the sound (like removing most of the low end).
The screen design that was linked here is called 'Stripes' and it's a bit more mid-forward and focused. The old B&O mics, Royer, and some of the RCA mics have a similar design on their grilles. We use a much larger ribbon with a lower tuning though which gives more low end than the other mics mentioned.
And yeah, Samar makes amazing mics. Mark is a great dude and an incredible designer.
If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer here. Feel free email me at Sammy@ohmaworld.com if you want to try a mic in your own space.
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Post by drumsound on Mar 1, 2024 16:09:33 GMT -6
Sammy, thanks for chiming in and joining our little corner of the internet. I hope you stick around and contribute to other threads. I'd like to try the condenser, I'm always intrigued by edge-terminated capsules.
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Post by karlo on Mar 1, 2024 19:19:01 GMT -6
The artist they spotlight on their website are amazing and probably would make any mic sound good. There is some strong marketing pulling me in. I’d be curious to hear about the recording chain they used for those sound demos and artist spotlight recordings.
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Post by ohmasammy on Mar 1, 2024 19:36:28 GMT -6
Thanks drumsound! Will do. The artist they spotlight on their website are amazing and probably would make any mic sound good. There is some strong marketing pulling me in. I’d be curious to hear about the recording chain they used for those sound demos and artist spotlight recordings. Thanks for the nice words! All of the videos on our website use an Apollo x8p with the built-in preamps. We wanted to use something that was more common, so folks without standalone preamps could hear what our mics sound like through a normal system. The Listening Library videos do not have any EQ or compression. Only the vocal videos have reverb on them (which is documented on the YouTube page). The artist videos are mixed like a normal track since there are often multiple instruments and we want to show the mics in the context of a mix. Pretty minimal effects and all in the box. And yeah, they're all great musicians!
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Post by jacobamerritt on Mar 2, 2024 0:49:20 GMT -6
Thanks drumsound! Will do. Thanks for the nice words! All of the videos on our website use an Apollo x8p with the built-in preamps. We wanted to use something that was more common, so folks without standalone preamps could hear what our mics sound like through a normal system. The Listening Library videos do not have any EQ or compression. Only the vocal videos have reverb on them (which is documented on the YouTube page). The artist videos are mixed like a normal track since there are often multiple instruments and we want to show the mics in the context of a mix. Pretty minimal effects and all in the box. And yeah, they're all great musicians! Thanks for this context, it sounds like you all put a lot of thought and care into the sonics and design! For me personally a lot of that was missed, and my initial impression in ads/promoted social media Ive seen pop up made me think these were more about the aesthetics for podcasters and TikTok types than more 'audio geek' studio types. Maybe I just saw the wrong videos/ads or something! Definitely intrigued to give them a listen now! 110 SPL on the condenser with no pad does seem maybe a bit of a challenge for my sessions. Maybe there's some science/physics with other specs I'm not considering though.
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