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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 5, 2024 10:29:33 GMT -6
Just gauging where the consensus is…
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Post by andersmv on Feb 5, 2024 23:47:44 GMT -6
I know better than to say the “A” word around here at this point 😂. Might as well be pitching the policeman’s ball to a black teenager…
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Post by thehightenor on Feb 6, 2024 2:08:47 GMT -6
I was thinking of going mono - based on how my wife and kids listen to music. Stereo is for audiophiles these days  Atmos is for commercial studios (looking for an edge because everyone is making music in their bedroom) and Apple because .... well Apple is Apple. |
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Post by EmRR on Feb 6, 2024 8:20:09 GMT -6
Mono through 1 speaker is great, stereo F’s it up, so stereo Atmos…..
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Post by bluesholyman on Feb 6, 2024 12:16:05 GMT -6
Atmos is for commercial studios (looking for an edge because everyone is making music in their bedroom) and Apple because .... well Apple is Apple. I think this was the sentiment I was understanding when I posted about Atmos as a gatekeeper in the last couple of days - looking for the edge above the bedroom crowd. I am not sure why they would need something like Atmos for that. I would think it very rare for a bedroom mix to be near acceptable quality in most cases. |
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Post by seawell on Feb 6, 2024 12:28:44 GMT -6
Atmos is for commercial studios (looking for an edge because everyone is making music in their bedroom) and Apple because .... well Apple is Apple. I think this was the sentiment I was understanding when I posted about Atmos as a gatekeeper in the last couple of days - looking for the edge above the bedroom crowd. I am not sure why they would need something like Atmos for that. I would think it very rare for a bedroom mix to be near acceptable quality in most cases. One thing I wonder is if the sheer amount of music being uploaded every day is more than any of them ever imagined. Especially songs that aren't getting many plays. Could the cost of hosting all of that become an issue at some point? Not just the push for Atmos but also Spotify not paying royalties moving forward for songs with less than 1,000 streams per year, there definitely seems to be some interest in thinning out the herd. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 6, 2024 12:33:51 GMT -6
Atmos is for commercial studios (looking for an edge because everyone is making music in their bedroom) and Apple because .... well Apple is Apple. I think this was the sentiment I was understanding when I posted about Atmos as a gatekeeper in the last couple of days - looking for the edge above the bedroom crowd. I am not sure why they would need something like Atmos for that. I would think it very rare for a bedroom mix to be near acceptable quality in most cases. Well...I take that as a challenge! lol |
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Post by ericn on Feb 6, 2024 13:43:52 GMT -6
I was thinking of going mono - based on how my wife and kids listen to music. Stereo is for audiophiles these days Atmos is for commercial studios (looking for an edge because everyone is making music in their bedroom) and Apple because .... well Apple is Apple. I’m going to disagree with the last part, the commercial studio is the enemy of everything Apple is, the number one on ITunes, recorded at home on logic is what Apple is all about and what Apple sells in almost all its products. This is more of Apple’s constant embrace of the latest thing, it also represents Apple’s desire to move away from being a computer company and an enhanced consumer electronics company and over all technology company. If we ever see an Apple TV monitor expect built in ATMOS, if we ever see the Apple Car ATMOS will be standard. Apple has learned how to leverage features we really don’t care about into reasons to justify their inflated price. All the while showing us we can be the next Taylor Swift or Ron Howard, just buy our stuff. |
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Post by jmoose on Feb 6, 2024 14:41:49 GMT -6
One thing I wonder is if the sheer amount of music being uploaded every day is more than any of them ever imagined. Especially songs that aren't getting many plays. Could the cost of hosting all of that become an issue at some point? Not just the push for Atmos but also Spotify not paying royalties moving forward for songs with less than 1,000 streams per year, there definitely seems to be some interest in thinning out the herd. Geez 'ya think? I've absolutely read articles about that. Think we all have that something like 100,000 new songs are uploaded every day? And right how many get listened to? I'm sure the execs at spotify and all those companies never imagined it... the hobbyist musician angle that an old buddy called "The 900 club" What's that? Remember when bands would go to discmakers or whoever and it was a 1000 piece minimum order to have copies pressed? Well the band would give away about 100 to their family & hardcore fans... and then have 900 copies left for all of eternity. Now? These days? Anyone with an email address and $50 can go through distrokid and upload their whack music to spotify for its 100 spins. At least we've cut back on the landfill waste... I guess that's something. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 6, 2024 14:59:57 GMT -6
I guess I could see there being a threshold before paying out royalties. That actually hurts me and my personal songs...but there's got to be some kind of gatekeeping.
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Post by ml on Feb 6, 2024 16:50:17 GMT -6
I guess I could see there being a threshold before paying out royalties. That actually hurts me and my personal songs...but there's got to be some kind of gatekeeping. It’s a tricky situation, because there’s already enough gate keeping in this industry and who gets to decide what is “good” anyways? I also don’t think they have enough employees to filter through songs meaning it would be left up to an algorithm. Maybe they need a true independent section with no label affiliated stations and playlists. “Less than 100 plays station” make the listeners rate the songs afterwards and send the feedback to the artists. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by smashlord on Feb 6, 2024 20:09:06 GMT -6
A studio in town just put in an Atmos room and the studio manager was saying they were struggling to find work for it and engineers that know how to fully utilize it.
I have yet to have an artist ask for it and most don't really know what it is.
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Post by bluesholyman on Feb 8, 2024 17:18:29 GMT -6
I think this was the sentiment I was understanding when I posted about Atmos as a gatekeeper in the last couple of days - looking for the edge above the bedroom crowd. I am not sure why they would need something like Atmos for that. I would think it very rare for a bedroom mix to be near acceptable quality in most cases. Well...I take that as a challenge! lol Maybe I should have qualified that as "untrained engineer bedroom mix" which is what I was thinking. I get the rooms significance, but a trained engineer will know this. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 8, 2024 18:21:56 GMT -6
Well...I take that as a challenge! lol Maybe I should have qualified that as "untrained engineer bedroom mix" which is what I was thinking. I get the rooms significance, but a trained engineer will know this. Oh - I know...I just need some motivation to finish the idea I came up with...but it is all from my home studio... |
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Feb 8, 2024 19:55:29 GMT -6
I was thinking of going mono - based on how my wife and kids listen to music. Stereo is for audiophiles these days Atmos is for commercial studios (looking for an edge because everyone is making music in their bedroom) and Apple because .... well Apple is Apple. I’m going to disagree with the last part, the commercial studio is the enemy of everything Apple is, the number one on ITunes, recorded at home on logic is what Apple is all about and what Apple sells in almost all its products. This is more of Apple’s constant embrace of the latest thing, it also represents Apple’s desire to move away from being a computer company and an enhanced consumer electronics company and over all technology company. If we ever see an Apple TV monitor expect built in ATMOS, if we ever see the Apple Car ATMOS will be standard. Apple has learned how to leverage features we really don’t care about into reasons to justify their inflated price. All the while showing us we can be the next Taylor Swift or Ron Howard, just buy our stuff. has some great points here. I posted shortly after but a couple of years ago I went to the WWDC at Apple's HQ. At one stop we were all shuttled into their highly hyped Spacial Audio auditorium in the developer HQ building where they dramatically intro'd "here it comes" of some instrumental and played their spacial audio demo. It was so underwhelming. But also, cars are already a thing. That push is huge. No, it hasn't hit anything but high end luxury models but that will cascade down to every day drivers considering the endless money Apple has to push it. Edit: clarity |
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