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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 27, 2024 16:50:26 GMT -6
I mean new creations whether clone or new. The availability obviously affects desirability, so it might be kind’ve hard to answer…but just thought it was an interesting question.
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Post by doubledog on Jan 27, 2024 16:51:05 GMT -6
SM57's
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 27, 2024 17:03:26 GMT -6
SM7Cs.
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 27, 2024 17:14:07 GMT -6
I think possibly golden era Neumann mics and the like, but perhaps technology will advance to the point where they can be accurately modeled, or there may be new capsule materials etc. that render my prognosis completely wrong. Or just so few people with access to them and the folks that currently use and/or covet them are no longer with us so that golden era becomes essentially meaningless.
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by sean on Jan 27, 2024 17:31:29 GMT -6
Probably the most interesting and original analog things I’ve own over the years are the Overstayer Stereo Voltage Control…which can really change the sound of a source in musical ways without much fuss, and the Standard Audio Stretch for similar but different way. Overstayer really is probably one of the most original companies to come along. Otherwise, for better or worse, affordable CAT5 headphone systems really have changed recording. And probably Trinnov and similar monitoring software. And it’ll be interesting to see if more companies adapt the WesAudio and Bettermaker digital recall. It’s definitely appealing the more in the box I’ve become over the years
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Post by niklas1073 on Jan 27, 2024 17:32:11 GMT -6
Well, guess those that have been the best selling shit the past 60-70 years ain't going nowhere. 25 years passes fast. And I bet that those songs that will be played 25 years from now will in most cases have a pultec, la2a, 1176, u47, 67, and all the fancy boutique versions of them and pre’s from the evergreens. Shit music comes and goes, shit productions comes and goes. Good music hasn’t actually changed that much in 50 years. And seems to me the “realization revival” hits every couple of decades. Seems to me the same goes for gear.
The great digital evolution has already happened, now the steps of development are much smaller than 10 years ago. Digital gear that used to last for a year or two before getting outdated can now be valid for a decade as the upgrade pace is so slow with often more marketing value than actual user development. And still the analog hardware market is probably bigger than ever in history. Not only big production studios are buying, but every home studio wants it’s share. There has never been as many 1176, la2a, Fairchild and 1073 clones and versions out there as there is today. Hard to believe any revolutions will happen on that front.
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Post by noob on Jan 27, 2024 19:17:17 GMT -6
The year is 2049. Computing power has become exponentially better than it was in 2024. Universal audio just sent out a patch to make their software VST900 compatible. At this point every piece of hardware, console, and microphone in existence has been emulated perfectly down to the micro-nanosecond impulses and all recording happens in a simulated studio space within the Apple Matrix personal enclosure. Original hardware is still expensive, but no longer used by anyone except a few "crazies" who have been shunned from the rest of society.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jan 28, 2024 1:58:04 GMT -6
I’ll be dead so I don’t care but my kids will have an expensive collection.
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Post by theshea on Jan 28, 2024 2:54:01 GMT -6
not many i fear because most will be dead and obsolete. no one will be able to repair them and parts won‘t be available …
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Post by christophert on Jan 28, 2024 4:34:41 GMT -6
All of the amazing tube gear we had that does not work anymore.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 28, 2024 9:14:56 GMT -6
I feel like the Soyuz hit really well. They came out originally and had a top notch design and great sound and packaging. You buy one of their mics, open the box, pick up the mic, it just FEELS fantastic. Then they also sound fantastic. They didn’t have a problem keeping stock, the price is right. Their designs are significantly different than any other mic being sold aside from their sdc but that’s a design where form follows function.
Seems like a company that will stick around for a long time and continue to make great gear.
Now, my honest thought about current vintage mics isn’t great. These things are selling for inflated prices (imo)and there are few people that can upkeep them that know what they are supposed to sound like. I don’t know many 25-30 year old mic techs.
Buying recording or musical gear for investment purposes is a really big gamble imo. It’s a piece of equipment meant to make you money through its use. Just thinking about the loss you’d have taken on a console or tape machine back in the day if you weren’t making money with it makes me shudder.
I’m rambling at this point, but yeah nobody is going to want to use or know how to use a large format console in 25 years nor will they care. Shit 10 years ago I wasn’t able to find anybody that cared to learn how to use a 72ch ssl. Maybe it’s just my location who knows.
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Post by chessparov on Jan 28, 2024 9:55:00 GMT -6
The year is 2049. Computing power has become exponentially better than it was in 2024. Universal audio just sent out a patch to make their software VST900 compatible. At this point every piece of hardware, console, and microphone in existence has been emulated perfectly down to the micro-nanosecond impulses and all recording happens in a simulated studio space within the Apple Matrix personal enclosure. Original hardware is still expensive, but no longer used by anyone except a few "crazies" who have been shunned from the rest of society. Sounds like that book and movie "AKG 451". By Ray Bradbury. My Nanocompressor will be "Super Vintage" by then. But will all the Plugs made in it's honor... Further increa$e "priceless"? * Chris Maybe I'll will mine to Chris @ Audioscape.
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Post by chessparov on Jan 28, 2024 9:56:39 GMT -6
not many i fear because most will be dead and obsolete. no one will be able to repair them and parts won‘t be available True. How about the Gear?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 10:26:11 GMT -6
The same stuff we talk about now plus some of the better new releases I guess.. As long as there's profit in repairs or upgrades it will happen, regulations might dictate what materials are used but money is what talks. So I'm not concerned about HW or mic's, it might disappear for a while but come back into fashion. Interfaces and monitors will end up in landfill as we're always looking to what's next or "better" in this area.
What I'd find amusing is a resurgence in "vintage plugins", it might sound silly but I've already seen a thread or two revolving around the mid 00's plugin releases.
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Post by doubledog on Jan 28, 2024 11:23:16 GMT -6
Son of Stam...
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Post by Ward on Jan 28, 2024 11:24:09 GMT -6
will IR.s still be a thing? Will we be doing IR.s of acoustic instruments like acoustic guitars, vintage mandolins, Mandolas, concert harps, banjos etc? And using electronic fake controllers to 'play' them? in the same manner we do with guitar amps, speakers, and with midi with piano and drum samples etc?
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Post by Ward on Jan 28, 2024 11:30:34 GMT -6
Will everything be modeling, and will the vast majority of our craft merely resort to modeling things we use now ?
Will there be a $9 dictaphone microphone into a computer that through software comes out sounding like the finest 251/47/48/37/49/12/900g ever made?
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Post by bluesholyman on Jan 28, 2024 11:45:32 GMT -6
The ones we don't have...
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Post by damoongo on Jan 28, 2024 12:19:54 GMT -6
The year is 2049. Computing power has become exponentially better than it was in 2024. Universal audio just sent out a patch to make their software VST900 compatible. At this point every piece of hardware, console, and microphone in existence has been emulated perfectly down to the micro-nanosecond impulses and all recording happens in a simulated studio space within the Apple Matrix personal enclosure. Original hardware is still expensive, but no longer used by anyone except a few "crazies" who have been shunned from the rest of society. Moore's law is tapped out. No exponential increase in CPU power (until quantum is solved, which is a long way off). Hang on to your hardware!
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Post by ericn on Jan 28, 2024 12:47:37 GMT -6
Prediction, The Distressor, All of Dave Hills designs. I don’t see most clones gaining much traction, but I see early BAE and the like early racking of classics gaining even more value.
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Post by niklas1073 on Jan 28, 2024 12:51:07 GMT -6
will IR.s still be a thing? Will we be doing IR.s of acoustic instruments like acoustic guitars, vintage mandolins, Mandolas, concert harps, banjos etc? And using electronic fake controllers to 'play' them? in the same manner we do with guitar amps, speakers, and with midi with piano and drum samples etc? I believe despite how good the modeling would end up being, how well ai imitated it could be, there will always be the human factor involved where the listener will eventually demand a further connection to the music and artist. The story around it. Same i think goes for the gears we produce it with. Music is so much more than meets the eye or sound quality. We have already reached the point where we aim to screw up the perfection of sound to make it pleasant to listen to. And as long as there is live music that same immediate feeling will be tried to achieve in the studio. I actually think the analog world will rather expand from now on when production has become cheaper and parts are available in many price ranges.
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 28, 2024 13:17:13 GMT -6
Prediction, The Distressor, All of Dave Hills designs. I don’t see most clones gaining much traction, but I see early BAE and the like early racking of classics gaining even more value. I know my Trakker aint going anywhere. Itll be my kids problem after I croak. Cheers, Geoff
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