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Post by seawell on Jan 22, 2024 11:08:34 GMT -6
Looks like Heritage is entering the interface business:
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Post by ragan on Jan 22, 2024 11:16:48 GMT -6
Video is over the top, but could be cool?
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 22, 2024 11:29:45 GMT -6
EDIT: OK, I read up on it. Could be interesting, I suppose, but lots of questions remain, obviously.
I was just up in the mountains for a couple days last week for a little solo trip. That’s the kind of situation that to me the Pro or Pro2 could be interesting. Take that, a laptop, and a couple mics, and one might actually get some usable stuff.
For the Pro Edge, I think it’s missing Word Clock. Would rather have seen AES on a DB-25 than ADAT, but I get it.
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Post by ragan on Jan 22, 2024 11:36:48 GMT -6
Is it petty to chuckle at “plug-ings”?
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 22, 2024 11:42:14 GMT -6
Hahahahhahaha Impressed? Goofy video but I could totally see myself getting something Like this as my next mobile interface. 2 headphone outs! Thank you! Edit: only 2 outs on the expensive one
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 22, 2024 11:43:18 GMT -6
Is it petty to chuckle at “plug-ings”? Hahahaha I missed that
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 22, 2024 11:44:58 GMT -6
Hahahahhahaha Impressed? Goofy video but I could totally see myself getting something Like this as my next mobile interface. 2 headphone outs! Thank you! Yes, but only on the big, $1500 one.
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Post by dok on Jan 22, 2024 11:47:15 GMT -6
I can't be the only one who finds the lack of a HPF on these a serious shortcoming, can I?
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 22, 2024 11:48:30 GMT -6
Hahahahhahaha Impressed? Goofy video but I could totally see myself getting something Like this as my next mobile interface. 2 headphone outs! Thank you! Yes, but only on the big, $1500 one. Yeah just read up on it and that’s a shame. The whole point for me of a mobile interface is to be able to record yourself obviously but also someone else with just a backpack rig and so many of these don’t include a second HP out so you end up carrying an extra mini headphone amp and cables which makes it a bit clumsy.
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 22, 2024 12:02:46 GMT -6
Before we had mic preamps with glass to show the tubes lighting up, now we get to see the input transformers! Sexy!
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Post by Quint on Jan 22, 2024 12:34:39 GMT -6
So many interface makers are now offering their own line of DSP plugins to be used with their interface. I get why they're doing it. Also, in fairness, I haven't listened to any of these plugins, but said plugins always just feel like an afterthought to me. "UA is doing it with the Apollos, so we have to have our own DSP plugins too." That sort of thing.
Are any of these plugins actually any good? UAD plugins are obviously UAD plugins, what about DSP plugins from other interface makers? Anybody actually think highly of any of these?
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Post by tkaitkai on Jan 22, 2024 13:10:50 GMT -6
I can't be the only one who finds the lack of a HPF on these a serious shortcoming, can I? Yeah, that's a real bummer. Plus no HW insert. If I'm buying a Neveish mic pre, I'd want to use it with an outboard signal chain. I'm sure it sounds good, though.
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Post by notneeson on Jan 22, 2024 14:29:02 GMT -6
Also, it’s a 1272 or 1290 style pre that is ganged together with the obsolete technology of tomorrow. Kinda makes me sad.
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Post by niklas1073 on Jan 22, 2024 14:47:26 GMT -6
Yeah, first I got super excited when I saw these. I’m yet undecided on what I think of heritage as a brand, I hear people like them. But I thought this i73 would be right down my alley. ‘Til I saw that the model with a pair of ch3-4 i/o was 1500+euro. Nowhere could I find either who is making the actual interface, what converters do they use…You can sure crum in the -73 into a 500 series… but that looks like its pretty tight??? I’m not sure what to think… intrigued but…
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 22, 2024 15:39:15 GMT -6
I’ve had Heritage preamps next to original Neves, Baes and Sheps. They sound great. At least all the handwired ones do, I’ve never heard their budget line which I assume this is closer to. Probably no output transformer too, can’t see how you’d fit those big Carnhills in there.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 22, 2024 19:45:00 GMT -6
Looks like Heritage is entering the interface business: well...interesting.
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Post by ab101 on Jan 22, 2024 20:48:19 GMT -6
I’ve had Heritage preamps next to original Neves, Baes and Sheps. They sound great. At least all the handwired ones do, I’ve never heard their budget line which I assume this is closer to. Probably no output transformer too, can’t see how you’d fit those big Carnhills in there. The single 500 space Heritage Audio 73Eq jr. did a good job of giving the vibe from the eq section in the three space Heritage 73/500. I also really like the Heritage 609a. But anything else by Heritage? Not so sure.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jan 22, 2024 20:57:34 GMT -6
Monitoring plugins are pretty cool. I could see myself putting Sonarworks on the interface output instead of the session.
The single channel will make a lot of sense for a singer songwriter. The software looks polished. Interested to see how the drivers perform.
Once you get to the top model it might make sense to be buying separate interface and pre unless the converters on this thing a pretty good.
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Post by niklas1073 on Jan 23, 2024 0:30:58 GMT -6
Monitoring plugins are pretty cool. I could see myself putting Sonarworks on the interface output instead of the session. The single channel will make a lot of sense for a singer songwriter. The software looks polished. Interested to see how the drivers perform. Once you get to the top model it might make sense to be buying separate interface and pre unless the converters on this thing a pretty good. Yeah I checked that you get the heritage dual pre for a little over 1K (since it’s something of that design they probably run in it), then pair it up with a decent interface and you are still below the 1,5K, and you can swap interface when it runs out of time. Or better a BAE 73 solo pre with a UAD solo interface and you get all that monitoring/tracking thru dsp and a 73 pre for life. Still at 1,5K
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Post by skav on Jan 23, 2024 10:17:24 GMT -6
Undoubtedly something many have wished and waited for, in one form or another.
Available in the middle of april according to my local reseller.
I hope this light a fire in every other firm
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2024 11:23:34 GMT -6
Someone new entering the interface with dedicated DSP powered plugins always scares me because you never really know how long they are going to support it. While I understand everyone wanting to think a desktop interface is portable, not really, think of how much you would have to spend on a custom case to protect it. For the $ I have to admit the idea of a separate Neve 2ch pre and UAD solo looks much more attractive as an investment: 2 choices of pre amp, a system designed to grow in either the analog or digital world, I can keep my plugins and grow, established plugin format. I can bring the cost down going used. 2 headphone outs is a nice feature if they each have their own separate amp and level controls, ever plugged a second pair of phones into a Y cable while listening to the first? It doesn’t matter if the split is on the PCB or a y cable.
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Post by copperx on Jan 24, 2024 6:14:11 GMT -6
On the one hand, having an interface with a classic pre design simplifies many things for the end user.
On the other hand, it makes me really sad that one day that circuitry will end up on a landfill, when the manufacturer stops supporting it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 16:44:19 GMT -6
Someone new entering the interface with dedicated DSP powered plugins always scares me because you never really know how long they are going to support it. While I understand everyone wanting to think a desktop interface is portable, not really, think of how much you would have to spend on a custom case to protect it. For the $ I have to admit the idea of a separate Neve 2ch pre and UAD solo looks much more attractive as an investment: 2 choices of pre amp, a system designed to grow in either the analog or digital world, I can keep my plugins and grow, established plugin format. I can bring the cost down going used. 2 headphone outs is a nice feature if they each have their own separate amp and level controls, ever plugged a second pair of phones into a Y cable while listening to the first? It doesn’t matter if the split is on the PCB or a y cable. Custom case?
Just shove it in the original box and chuck it in the car, I mean they on occasion they manage to get to the other side of the world without issues and I don't trust delivery drivers to handle with care. Modern interfaces are pretty damn rugged, my MOTU's been down a flight of stairs and once or twice it has been stacked on top of an amp for a live room recording. It's a tank is that thing, I've had it what a decade?!
Ironically it's most live mixers that scare me, you sneeze in their general direction and they tend to stop working.
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Post by sirthought on Jan 25, 2024 1:45:38 GMT -6
Yeah, first I got super excited when I saw these. I’m yet undecided on what I think of heritage as a brand, I hear people like them. But I thought this i73 would be right down my alley. ‘Til I saw that the model with a pair of ch3-4 i/o was 1500+euro. Nowhere could I find either who is making the actual interface, what converters do they use…You can sure crum in the -73 into a 500 series… but that looks like its pretty tight??? I’m not sure what to think… intrigued but… How many companies spell out all that stuff in their marketing? Some might name drop a converter company, but you don't know most of the workings anyhow. Heritage is now under the RAD Distribution umbrella. So they are working with BLA and several other pro audio companies that I'm sure are having certain things cross developed. I'm guessing they have circuit boards done up to a spec and it's assembled in Spain.
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Post by sirthought on Jan 25, 2024 1:59:27 GMT -6
So many interface makers are now offering their own line of DSP plugins to be used with their interface. I get why they're doing it. Also, in fairness, I haven't listened to any of these plugins, but said plugins always just feel like an afterthought to me. "UA is doing it with the Apollos, so we have to have our own DSP plugins too." That sort of thing. Are any of these plugins actually any good? UAD plugins are obviously UAD plugins, what about DSP plugins from other interface makers? Anybody actually think highly of any of these? I think with a lot of the companies, they aren't trying to spin the DSP effects to be offering the vintage vibe of certain gear like UAD does. RME, Merging Technologies, etc: they are giving you a basic EQ to shape up a signal while tracking; a competent compressor or limiter; some standard filtering; and probably a confidence reverb. It's not hard to make decent plugins at this stage to help with tracking. It's if you are trying to nail the exact controls/sound of a know piece. Metric Halo has both basic and some stuff with their "Character" presets, which mimic classic sounds. But they also have some seriously cool and desirable plugins that work on their DSP. I never hear people talking about the Apogee DSP plugins, so I don't know if they rise up to UAD's level. Same with Antelope. Somebody must be happy with it. Heritage are claiming their own gear as plugins, which is kinda cool for them. They actually offer a lot of hardware, so this list of stuff could grow over time.
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