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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2024 11:08:30 GMT -6
Made an offer on an amp last night at 4 am offer excepted email received, went to pay at 10 am it’s gone sold to someone else WTF? Thought you had 24 hours of a hold. Oh well I’ll gladly spend it elsewhere!
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Post by noob on Jan 15, 2024 12:49:58 GMT -6
You're sure that its not marked sold because they accepted your offer?
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2024 15:21:41 GMT -6
You're sure that its not marked sold because they accepted your offer? Yep tried the link from the offer excepted email, tried from the app, not even listed iin my offers tried from the website. Sent seller a PM haven’t heard back.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 15, 2024 15:24:13 GMT -6
Somebody needs to start a new online sales platform...ahem...
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2024 15:49:18 GMT -6
Somebody needs to start a new online sales platform...ahem... Brother can you spare a million? Have talked about it with a few guys, the problem is this to get the capital you would have to take on major investors, who would all take the first big profitable offer and run. In a side note, can you imagine the potential if either GC or Music Go Round put effort into their online used listings? Almost everything starts at a 100 percent mark, just some really decent photos descriptions ( you list a wireless and are shocked someone would want to know the Freq.) . Classifieds here and a few others have their gems but are really hard to search. I was talking to a guy the other day and if a place like reverb sold boxes designed for gear! Guy couldn’t believe I pack rack gear in 20-21 in Homedepot moving boxes wrapped in bubble wrap and paper to fill.
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Post by doubledog on Jan 16, 2024 8:54:35 GMT -6
Sweetwater Gear Exchange is actually pretty good so far, although there are still a few postings that should not be approved (only because they lack detail, or in some cases are priced higher than a new item at Sweetwater lol). Although tbh, one thing I don't like is that when someone makes you an offer, and you accept it, then your item is "on hold" and I've had a couple times that the buyer just vanished and then my item is stuck for 48 hours. the last time I contacted the GX support and they unstuck it and cancelled the offer. It is USA only right now. and I don't think making an offer on something puts it on hold - but once the seller accepts it, then it is on hold (marked as sold) until you pay. anyway, I gotta stop telling everyone before it gets overrun too!
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Post by doubledog on Jan 16, 2024 9:15:43 GMT -6
oh, and my last Reverb encounter was like this.... I was looking for a cheap SDC (for live sound) and found a CAD GXL1200 that met the criteria (since I was going to mod it anyway). I looked at it and then got an "offer" on Reverb shortly later (the automated offer that you can setup to send to people when they view or put it in the cart but don't buy). Usually they annoy the heck out of me, but this time I bought it because it knocked off 10% and it was already cheap. Several days go by and nothing, no tracking, so I go to contact the buyer and it says I cannot send them a message. wtf? So I contact Reverb support and while I'm doing that I look at the sellers account and now it says it is locked or frozen or something to that effect (before buying I had looked at the reviews/feedback). Anyway, Reverb support said we'll need to check this out and get back to you. The next morning I had a refund. So at least it worked out for me, but it was bizarre.
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Post by bluesholyman on Jan 16, 2024 12:17:55 GMT -6
Somebody needs to start a new online sales platform...ahem... Brother can you spare a million? I was talking to a guy the other day and if a place like reverb sold boxes designed for gear! Guy couldn’t believe I pack rack gear in 20-21 in Homedepot moving boxes wrapped in bubble wrap and paper to fill. A couple million and a few years. Burn rate on a reasonable dev team is about $1M/year give or take a hundred grand. Then there are infrastructure costs later in that first year, when running on a laptop is no longer reasonable. 1st rule of HomeDepot Box Club: Don't talk about HDBC!!
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Post by poppaflavor on Jan 17, 2024 21:00:24 GMT -6
What gets me is the cross platform listings that are subject to the vagaries of the sellers decision on which offer to take and an inability to enforce the sale according to which sale occurred first.
I saw the same item listed on eBay and Reverb and it was slightly less experience on eBay. So I purchased it on eBay, took a screenshot, messaged the seller immediately to inquire at to how fast it might ship, went to Reverb and confirmed the item was still available, took a screenshot, it hadn't been purchased yet but the app showed that offers were in.
Then an hour later I got a message through eBay that the item was no longer available. Went to reverb and it was sold.
Messaged the seller and listed the time stamps for my screenshots and the seller was like... "Too effing bad".
The greedy slimeball had clearly sold it on Reverb after I purchased it on eBay.
I presented the time stamps and asked them to cancel the Reverb sale and fulfill my priority purchase on eBay; they refused.
And I could not leave a review on either reverb or eBay since I had not successfully completed a purchase.
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Post by timix on Jan 20, 2024 11:09:18 GMT -6
What gets me is the cross platform listings that are subject to the vagaries of the sellers decision on which offer to take and an inability to enforce the sale according to which sale occurred first. I saw the same item listed on eBay and Reverb and it was slightly less experience on eBay. So I purchased it on eBay, took a screenshot, messaged the seller immediately to inquire at to how fast it might ship, went to Reverb and confirmed the item was still available, took a screenshot, it hadn't been purchased yet but the app showed that offers were in. Then an hour later I got a message through eBay that the item was no longer available. Went to reverb and it was sold. Messaged the seller and listed the time stamps for my screenshots and the seller was like... "Too effing bad". The greedy slimeball had clearly sold it on Reverb after I purchased it on eBay. I presented the time stamps and asked them to cancel the Reverb sale and fulfill my priority purchase on eBay; they refused. And I could not leave a review on either reverb or eBay since I had not successfully completed a purchase. Unfortunately you dont really have any rights in that situation if you haven't paid for it and even then you have none if they refund you. More people are advertising in multiple places, some of which are free, Reverb costs the seller about 7% & eBay isn't far behind, so if the seller sells on Marketplace etc, its cheaper for them. I have had a seller send me an invoice for some items & because I didn't pay immediately, he sold them to someone else.
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Post by poppaflavor on Jan 21, 2024 6:30:11 GMT -6
What gets me is the cross platform listings that are subject to the vagaries of the sellers decision on which offer to take and an inability to enforce the sale according to which sale occurred first. I saw the same item listed on eBay and Reverb and it was slightly less experience on eBay. So I purchased it on eBay, took a screenshot, messaged the seller immediately to inquire at to how fast it might ship, went to Reverb and confirmed the item was still available, took a screenshot, it hadn't been purchased yet but the app showed that offers were in. Then an hour later I got a message through eBay that the item was no longer available. Went to reverb and it was sold. Messaged the seller and listed the time stamps for my screenshots and the seller was like... "Too effing bad". The greedy slimeball had clearly sold it on Reverb after I purchased it on eBay. I presented the time stamps and asked them to cancel the Reverb sale and fulfill my priority purchase on eBay; they refused. And I could not leave a review on either reverb or eBay since I had not successfully completed a purchase. Unfortunately you dont really have any rights in that situation if you haven't paid for it and even then you have none if they refund you. More people are advertising in multiple places, some of which are free, Reverb costs the seller about 7% & eBay isn't far behind, so if the seller sells on Marketplace etc, its cheaper for them. I have had a seller send me an invoice for some items & because I didn't pay immediately, he sold them to someone else. Yes, I certainly didn't have any rights per se in that situation. Thanks for describing your experience with the invoice which wasn't promptly paid. Our scenarios are a bit different but if the seller had not indicated a "pay by" date I would have been frustrated if I'd been in your situation; invoices I typically encounter in my day job all have to be paid by a certain date. At the same time, I feel that some semblance of good business practice requires a "first-come-first-served" approach so the seller is perceived as objective and not wantonly capricious (or worse, greedily gaming the multiple platforms so as to wring out profit at the expense of the customers). There is really nothing I can do about it, other than whine on RGO, but ultimately I'd hope that market forces force sellers to act fairly and objectively to prioritize first responders/payers, such that repeat offender sellers who continually violate priority are noted and shunned. I'd like to think my experience with this seller was a fluke and that they don't always do this, which is why I've not mentioned who the seller is; no point in harming a reputation if this was a one-off misunderstanding. I have my perspective on what transpired, but although they didn't divulge theirs, they presumably have a different one.
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Post by latweek on Jan 21, 2024 9:18:27 GMT -6
Hey, it's not. I'm staying away from post-Etsy Reverb now as a rule. Its been going downhill since it was sold, but in the last 2 weeks of 2023, I made 8 purchases.
FIVE of the 8 purchases were the same situation you described. All of them I bought fair and square on Reverb, and they all mysteriously were "not available anymore" and I had to wait to be refunded. I'm sure its what you experienced. That is not a coincidence, that's a systemic problem.
Out of the other 3, 2 of them were items that were sent not as described and required a return, a 3U rack advertised as 4U, and another rack that was non-functional due to missing parts that were not mentioned.
Reverb is becoming a Craigslist that thinks its an Amazon marketplace.
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Post by Ward on Jan 24, 2024 6:56:11 GMT -6
Made an offer on an amp last night at 4 am offer excepted email received, went to pay at 10 am it’s gone sold to someone else WTF? Thought you had 24 hours of a hold. Oh well I’ll gladly spend it elsewhere! There there, muffin.
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