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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 15, 2024 1:58:24 GMT -6
I wonder if anyone else has done this.
I did kind of a weird session where we recorded everything in the room over a few marathon days. Things got kind of wild but in a cool way. As you might imagine it was a total nightmare to mix. Two acoustic guitars, people on megaphones, piano, two electric guitars, bass, all kinds of stuff... oh, and no drums to ground any of it.
So I found that the only way to make all the bleed work was to sub-mix the main elements and then put them through a group compression, old school style. The problem is that's about 80% of the song so it was pretty much mono until the horn overdubs and guitar came in on the breakdown (yeah... horns too).
Somehow or another I accidentally cranked the widener on Neutron and lo and behold... very cool.
So now here's the use. I personally love mono mixes. I just like the old school feeling but nobody else (or barely anyone) likes listening to them. But taking a mono mix and then stereoizing it seems to get the best of both worlds. It still feels like the old school stacking and yet my wife doesn't say "what's wrong with this mix, it doesn't sound finished?"
Anyone else ever take a mono (or mostly) mono mix and then stereoize the crap out of it?
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 15, 2024 2:03:19 GMT -6
Alas, I wish I could share this track. As you might guess from the description these are rather eccentric dudes. The whole thing is very lock and key.
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Post by niklas1073 on Jan 15, 2024 2:23:14 GMT -6
Would that in reality be something like a sort of dual monoish mix? it widens it and gives a pseudostereo experience but since it doesn't place instrumentation in the room.... it's still kinda mono isn't it? how does the drums come out in that configuration? kind of mirrored?
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 15, 2024 2:31:35 GMT -6
Did you use omni mics or cardioid?
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 15, 2024 2:59:09 GMT -6
Would that in reality be something like a sort of dual monoish mix? it widens it and gives a pseudostereo experience but since it doesn't place instrumentation in the room.... it's still kinda mono isn't it? how does the drums come out in that configuration? kind of mirrored? It is still kinda mono which is what's cool in this case. In this case I don't want the instruments placed in the room because there's so much spill that it prevents me from doing dynamic processing without outrageous time alignment issues. With this I can keep the live stuff mono so it can be treated without causing alignment problems and then do the (very few) overdubs in the stereo field without it sounding weird that only like one or two instruments are not mono.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 15, 2024 3:00:12 GMT -6
Did you use omni mics or cardioid? All kinds of stuff. Probably had 10 or so mics in the room. And the idea from the get-go was for it to be bleed/spill all over the place. We were going for that.
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 15, 2024 3:27:06 GMT -6
Did you use omni mics or cardioid? All kinds of stuff. Probably had 10 or so mics in the room. And the idea from the get-go was for it to be bleed/spill all over the place. We were going for that. Yeah right. I do find if I’m embracing spill - omni’s LCD’s actually work best as the off axis sound of cardioids is so yuk and then that’s embedded into the signal- save for a few choice spot sdc.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 15, 2024 9:06:37 GMT -6
All kinds of stuff. Probably had 10 or so mics in the room. And the idea from the get-go was for it to be bleed/spill all over the place. We were going for that. Yeah right. I do find if I’m embracing spill - omni’s LCD’s actually work best as the off axis sound of cardioids is so yuk and then that’s embedded into the signal- save for a few choice spot sdc. Totally. I had the lead singer on a cardiod but all the guitars were omni or fig 8. It was actually a very fun project.
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