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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2024 7:39:45 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 10:39:18 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2024 10:57:35 GMT -6
Before dumping on it did you even demo it : come on ?
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Post by smashlord on Jan 14, 2024 13:07:30 GMT -6
Itās a free plug almost certainly worse than what you already own from a developer who didnāt bother to model basic things like the program dependency of the compex or distressor making them much less useful as volume control devices. I will agree those aren't great plugs. The Distressor one particularly misses the mark. I tried out a beta of the Compex, which was better, but the gain structure was pretty off (I have the HW). Once I played around with that, though, it behaved much closer to the HW... certainly a lot better than the Boz labs one, which is not very good. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 14:29:55 GMT -6
Before dumping on it did you even demo it : come on ? any program that attempts to digitally mimic an analog compressor from modeling a hodgepodge of antiquated analog compressors with Kirchhoffās circuit laws and textbook algorithms will be much worse than any digital compressor that tries to reduce distortion in the sidechain path. Those antiquated compressors are of limited utility as volume control devices. The digital emulations of them are usually of zero utility and worse than over quarter century old Waves and Sony/Sonnox algorithms. There are some that attempt to emulate and succeed in emulating weirdo behavior of some analog compressors but they are of extremely limited utility and still coke with all of the limitations and usually extremely limited range of operating of their analog counterparts. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2024 14:39:59 GMT -6
Meaning you didnāt demo it.
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Post by noob on Jan 14, 2024 15:07:46 GMT -6
I like Kiive's tape emulation plugin, it's got a certain quality to it. I'll have to check this one out!
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Post by bigbone on Jan 14, 2024 15:28:55 GMT -6
Meaning you didnāt demo it. Do you have to put your fingers on fire to know it will be painful !!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 15:39:59 GMT -6
Meaning you didnāt demo it. waste of time. like watching a bad movie for free on cable. You wonāt get that 10 minutes of your life back |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2024 17:30:29 GMT -6
Gee, should I apologize for being a retired analyst who believes in empirical data?
Just thought it funny, that Dan was dumping all over a plug he hadnāt even listened to.
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Post by noob on Jan 14, 2024 21:36:23 GMT -6
Gee, should I apologize for being a retired analyst who believes in empirical data? Just thought it funny, that Dan was dumping all over a plug he hadnāt even listened to. I always appreciate it. There's no bad tools, it's all about how you use them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 23:51:33 GMT -6
Gee, should I apologize for being a retired analyst who believes in empirical data? Just thought it funny, that Dan was dumping all over a plug he hadnāt even listened to. itās an analog circuit emulation. Like driving a Honda Civic off-road. Iām sure it can blow shit up but so can what comes with your daw, eg Pro Tools has Smack, Logic has a bunch of stuff, Reaper has ReaComp with its linear attack and release and JS:1175, Cubase has Vintage Compressor. Volume control? Most of these are pretty bad compared to analog compressors or the better plugins you can buy |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2024 2:30:30 GMT -6
Dan, I respect you and your copious, detailed knowledge, but also think the best thing to do is to actually do the thing, like use the plug in, then judge it: good, bad or indifferent.
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Post by craigmorris74 on Jan 15, 2024 10:04:43 GMT -6
If I want volume control, Iāll automate the volume. I use compression as a tone shaping device, and sometimes that includes distortion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 11:37:42 GMT -6
If I want volume control, Iāll automate the volume. I use compression as a tone shaping device, and sometimes that includes distortion. compression is a volume control that's faster than your fingers and modern compressors are cleaner than your digital faders anyway at single sample rates |
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Post by noob on Jan 15, 2024 12:26:48 GMT -6
Even though it's technically controlling the volume, I'd call it more of a dynamic controller. You could call literally anything volume control. That's what the basics of mixing is, balancing the levels and dynamics.
For me, compression is a musical and rhythmic device. It goes far beyond the analytics of what it actually does technically. It's all about listening, and compression has an infinite scope of utilization given the different creative or precision based applications. A great compressor can add emotional depth, clarity, musical rhythm. Sometimes, you compress something and you are looking for a certain result, but you get something else completely and it ends up adding an enhanced feeling to the song.
Of course, you're never going to know if a compressor can add something musical to your palette, if you never try it in the first place. At times when I get super analytical about the inner workings of everything, and try to be a perfectionist I find it can take away from the creative aspect of mixing. And the results from that mindset are boring, sterile and uninspiring to listen to.
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