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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2024 22:42:20 GMT -6
When I woke Rick up from his nap, to ask about all this... He Clocked me all right. Really good. Now I'm relying on Dan to guide me... internal Scarlett clock? Or UA Volt? Can't eat or sleep. Definitely no Rueben sandwiches. Chris I've heard Rick recommends that you vibrate at a high enough frequency that your converters sync to you 🤣 his waves self-dither his clipped records. Johnny Cash American recordings are great except for the clipping. |
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Post by chessparov on Jan 13, 2024 4:17:01 GMT -6
Obviously then the Mastering was done at some...
Clip joint.
Yes the truth.
Hurts.
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Post by ericn on Jan 13, 2024 10:16:32 GMT -6
I've heard Rick recommends that you vibrate at a high enough frequency that your converters sync to you 🤣 his waves self-dither his clipped records. Johnny Cash American recordings are great except for the clipping. I clipped myself today just to see if I still could. |
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Post by lee on Jan 15, 2024 12:59:20 GMT -6
I’d venture to say I could pick which clock it was using after hearing both. They sound different. For a pair of microphones, sure. For a few similar outboard pieces, yes I'd agree. But I think that when it comes to judging something so esoteric as clocking, cables or perhaps converters of a similar vintage, confirmation bias is the first thing to steel yourself against, because I've participated in blind, repeated tests for clocks and converters and witnessed the failure in both myself and my colleagues. I am nobody to tell you that you can't hear it (and never wanted to imply that), just encouraging people to prove it to themselves. But ultimately, @johnkenn if it makes you happy, then it can't be that baaaaaaaaaaad. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 15, 2024 13:55:56 GMT -6
I’d venture to say I could pick which clock it was using after hearing both. They sound different. For a pair of microphones, sure. For a few similar outboard pieces, yes I'd agree. But I think that when it comes to judging something so esoteric as clocking, cables or perhaps converters of a similar vintage, confirmation bias is the first thing to steel yourself against, because I've participated in blind, repeated tests for clocks and converters and witnessed the failure in both myself and my colleagues. I am nobody to tell you that you can't hear it (and never wanted to imply that), just encouraging people to prove it to themselves. But ultimately, @johnkenn if it makes you happy, then it can't be that baaaaaaaaaaad. Yeah - that’s kind of what I’ve been trying to say. I’m not completely sure I’m not fooling myself, but I think it sounds better, so I’m just going with that. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 15, 2024 13:57:45 GMT -6
Would (should) white noise or something measure differently on a scope if I’m hearing differences when being clocked by different devices?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 15:24:18 GMT -6
Would (should) white noise or something measure differently on a scope if I’m hearing differences when being clocked by different devices? You need to use the J-test. 1/4th sample rate half scale sine modulated by a square wave turning on and off at 1 least significant bit. www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/jitter-test-signal-j-test-signal-with-matlab.183110/ has the j-test for 48 khz and 44.1 khz 24-bit already made as jitter 2 and jitter 3. Loop them back undithered (you need to see the spurs) and look at them in an FFT in the most accurate block size possible.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 15, 2024 15:25:27 GMT -6
I was told there would be no math.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 15:31:56 GMT -6
I was told there would be no math. There is no math needed. You download the jitter 2 and jitter 3 files there and loop them back into your cleanest ADC at 48 KHz and 44.1 kHz respectively. Mute your speakers of course. Then you look at them in SPAN with a high block size and super low floor. Use the master clock arrangement with the lowest spurs and sidebands. |
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