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Post by bluesholyman on Jan 7, 2024 12:29:31 GMT -6
I know it would depend on the song, but looking for a smoking B3 patch/setting that sounds like Reese in Montgomery Gentry's Gone. Here is the video
to it, and if it doesn't start at the proper place, queue it up to 2:20 and listen to that glorious sound - I love it.
I have the UAD Waterfall, which is on sale right now for $49 for those who weren't aware, and looking for a preset or perhaps good settings to come close to Reese's sound in that solo. I hear the leslie going fast, seems like there is some dirt on it, but I don't know what the manual settings would be - I just don't understand how to set a B3. I enjoy a mean sounding B3...
Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 7, 2024 12:41:23 GMT -6
That just sounds like all drawbars out. Distortion pulled up a bit. And turn upper and lower vibrato off.
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Post by bluesholyman on Jan 8, 2024 7:30:28 GMT -6
That just sounds like all drawbars out. Distortion pulled up a bit. And turn upper and lower vibrato off. Thanks John. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 9, 2024 8:37:52 GMT -6
Here’s your B3 vitamin for today !
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 9, 2024 10:29:47 GMT -6
Here’s your B3 vitamin for today ! Hard to fake a real Hammond |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 9, 2024 10:52:09 GMT -6
Great to see the technique too !
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 11, 2024 0:26:53 GMT -6
Just bumped into this, have always wanted to better understand how to b3!  |
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Post by niklas1073 on Jan 11, 2024 4:33:04 GMT -6
Tried out a friends crumar mojo double decker. Damn it was a nice substitute for a b3. Reasonable price, great touch and great sound super easily dialed in. Road case ready. Def. for someone who lays some organ tracks on regular basis.
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Post by bluesholyman on Jan 11, 2024 12:16:48 GMT -6
Here’s your B3 vitamin for today ! That was a very nutritious vitamin, thanks! |
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Post by earlevel on Jan 11, 2024 18:45:56 GMT -6
It gets simpler when you understand the basics of drawbar tones, colors, and the shapes the drawbars make. For instance, the white ones are octaves, so you'll get the flutey pipe organs sounds with them. The brown ones are the non-octave partials, and make it more brassy or string like. A V shape (lowest and highest all the way in, progressing linearly to the middle drawbar all the way out) is a reedy pipe organ sound. Basically, the first four are A Whiter Shade of Pale. The first three are the somewhat trumpetty Keith Emerson lead sound (plenty of drive and presence boosting), and it also goes great with percussion—also a staple of Jimmy Smith. All stops out is the big sound, goes great wiht grind too (um...try Circle of Hands by Uriah Heap). And all combinations thereof—when the all-out was too much, but I wanted big fat chords, I'd have the first four all-out and the rest half, for instance. And then there's chorus/vibrato/leslie, but those are quick to recognize. People usually settle into a small number of pet sounds. I was looking for a site that showed shapes of some of the classic pipe-organ-related sounds (the Hammond conceived of replacing pipe organs), didn't find a good one, but found this site with a lot of settings (click, then you'll probably need to scroll down a page to see the drawbars): Drawbar Settings |
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Post by wiz on Jan 12, 2024 0:56:14 GMT -6
Great video.. learned heaps
thanks cat
cheers
Wiz
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Post by reddirt on Jan 12, 2024 1:24:32 GMT -6
Good one cat; very informative.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 12, 2024 2:14:08 GMT -6
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Post by bluesholyman on Jan 12, 2024 6:21:57 GMT -6
I was looking for a site that showed shapes of some of the classic pipe-organ-related sounds (the Hammond conceived of replacing pipe organs), didn't find a good one, but found this site with a lot of settings (click, then you'll probably need to scroll down a page to see the drawbars): Drawbar SettingsThis site was immensely helpful, as well as your explanation - thank you! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 12, 2024 21:24:27 GMT -6
ooo...looking forward to watching this...
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2024 0:56:19 GMT -6
A little period history lesson! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2024 5:07:01 GMT -6
Mo b3 trix!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2024 5:22:42 GMT -6
Jon had to show up sometime:
an interesting tutorial about Jon’s sound and style:
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Post by earlevel on Jan 15, 2024 16:48:48 GMT -6
Jon had to show up sometime: an interesting tutorial about Jon’s sound and style: Over the years, I've read or heard so many times—on various how-tos, including imitating electric guitar on a synth—"when playing rock on keyboards, leave out the third—keep the fifth!", which I figured out long ago (in the '70s—dam I'm old) is misguided. You need to drop the fifth an octave. (Yeah, I'm not saying fourth, because although that is the interval, it's still a dropped-octave fifth relative to the root—or more accurately, the root is played an octave higher, as I'll explain shortly.) The fifth is too open, and the harmonics are emphasizing the wrong note, sounds meaner with the root on top. Here's where people go wrong: Yes, the fifth interval is in the standard 3-note guitar power chord. But the root is also accompanied by the octave. The mistake in converting that to two notes on a keyboard is dropping the top note—you need to drop the root and keep the octave, that's where the magic is. |
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